Broadway Mall; Hicksville, New York

Broadway Mall main entrance in Hicksville, NY

The Broadway Mall is one of the largest–and perhaps strangest–malls on Long Island. The mall opened in the 1956 on the site of a former boys’ orphanage as the open-air Mid-Island Plaza. The Hicksville area of Long Island was in the middle of a building and population boom at the time, as residents were flocking to the suburbs in great numbers. Some of the largest strictly suburban areas on the entire east coast are located in the vicinity of the center, including archetypal post-war suburbs like Levittown and Hempstead (which, with over 700,000 people, is the second most populous census-designated place in New York State).

The original Mid-Island Plaza consisted of 10 buildings and 8,000 parking spaces. The center’s main anchor, Gertz, was a local store from downtown Jamaica Queens who opened a major outpost in Hicksville to follow the population trends. Gertz’ 5-story, 300,000 square foot store dominated the center’s original design, and its rumored that this store is the tallest suburban department store ever built. At some point the mall also was home to an EJ Korvette’s store. The mall was even structured with an underground tunnel (still in use today) that allowed deliveries to be made directly to the stores underneath the mall. The Mid-Island Plaza was being enclosed in 1968 (and perhaps renamed at the same time?), then renovated again in 1989 and 1995. Gertz Department Stores parent company, Allied, united the Gertz stores under the Stern’s banner in the 1980s before becoming a Macy’s in 2001. The mall’s website offers a bit of its history.

Macy's (former Stern's) at Broadway Mall in Hicksville, NY

The Broadway Mall is located only a few miles from Roosevelt Field Mall, the largest mall in all of New York state and one of the largest on the entire eastern seaboard. As a result, it has an interesting feel and has an unusual store roster. The center is shaped like an “H”, with Macy’s at one of the junctions. Its other two anchors are a Target (which had been a JCPenney very briefly from 1999 to 2001 or 2002) and an IKEA, making for one of the stranger rosters of anchor stores of any mall in the northeast. Broadway Mall also boasts Steve & Barry’s University Sportswear, H&M, Old Navy, and a movie theatre as junior anchors. I’m not entirely sure what the IKEA or Target stores were initially, but the mall did boast EJ Korvette’s as one of its original anchors. Korvette’s stores tended to have large footprints, so it’s possible that IKEA took this space after the mall’s major redevelopment in 1995.

Broadway Mall in Hicksville, NY

MallsofAmerica has some really cool photos of the Broadway Mall during its Mid-Island Plaza days, and our photos were all taken in May of 2007. I’ve been to this mall many times since 1999 (until 2004, this IKEA was the closest one to Boston) and it hasn’t changed much in that time, beyond when Target replaced JCPenney at the rear anchor. The imposing, humungous Macy’s store is certainly a highlight here, as is the cavernous center court and the strange way the food court is cantilevered onto a second level. But really, Broadway Mall is most interesting as an example of how a second-tier mall that would normally be crowded out by larger siblings is able to hang on with some less-than-traditional anchor stores and make out just fine.

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178 thoughts on “Broadway Mall; Hicksville, New York”

  1. I haven’t seen pictures of this place since it was enclosed. It’s a good looking mall. Very open and airy, and IKEA having a mall entrance is very unusual. Gotta love the Macy’s, too. It’s massive.

  2. IKEA has had other stores with mall entrances, such as Potomac Mills outside of DC (later relocated to an outparcel, with the old store converted to more, smaller shops). Usually, they seem to prefer being close to, but not in malls as in Atlantic Station in Atlanta or White Marsh outside of Baltimore.

    BTW, Hempstead looks like it had already been flocked-to by WWII. .For many years, it had a very successful freestanding A&S in its main street-like downtown. That store went up in the early/mid-50s.

    The combo of original stores sounds odd now, but early shopping centers were seen as gambles and some chains still built freestanding suburban stores until well into the 50s. A low end discounter could never have gotten into a major center, but low end full-line stores (Federal’s, Wasson’s, Goldblatt’s, etc.) often were the first to go to the ‘burbs and sometimes even wound up being paired with rather upscale stores. EJ Korvette was a step above the primitive, often shoddy early discount stores and would have been acceptable as a co-anchor for a less than upscale, regional department store.

    Posters have complained about “industrial” design, but I like the simple, light-filled enclosure

  3. It hurts to see the boring look of this place today in contrast to that vintage photo. Nothing new there.

    About Stern’s, I was first exposed to them as an estranged Connecticut native when my brother attended Stony Brook Univ. In the early 2000s, we made some trips to the surrounding malls but most notably SmithHaven Mall which retained its 1980’s vintage and closed Stern’s for years before they decided to axe it for a lifestyle addition and subsequent remodel (which I was caught right in the midst of in 2006). Even then, the place looked out-of-time which explains why Broadway Mall’s former husk looks the way it does. The former Stern’s here reminds me of some newage sarcophagus yet its the only hearken to earlier times.

    Also, a different looking, albeit mallside Target here, I’d like to further note how Target stores seem to have more flexibility with inside mall entrances than the homogenous designs they’ve unveiled in stand-alone store past waves. Target seems to be the more daring discounter to operate inside malls unlike its critically spotlit rival, Wal-Mart who astonished some with its own, rare inside mall accessible Wal-Mart over at the Sunrise Mall (which replaced a Stern’s) in Massapequa.

    Let me bring to light the question: Wal-Mart or Target? Who has more inclusive mall locations? Whatever the result, both stores who typically enter malls are set out to save their anchorage likely due to the larger malls who are killing them off around them.

    Don’t know why, but I’m interested by these malls out on L.I. Keep ’em coming.

  4. Was the JCPenney turned Target “new” construction to the mall? Or, did something exist in that building prior to the JCPenney?

  5. One source told me that Penney’s used to be Korvette’s, but someone else told me that Korvette’s sat empty for a LONG time before it was torn down for IKEA.

    In any event, Penney’s was torn down for Target.

  6. When the mall expanded in 1995 the new wing went out to IKEA’s entry. The store under the food court first was NOBODY BEATS THE WIZ a ny area electronics retailer. Then it was sam goody, now it is rosewood home. Strange though the broadway moltiplex wich is 12 years old& does not have stadium seating. Then again in Nassau County the only theatre that has statium is ua westbury 12 near Westbury music fair.

  7. As I recall from my childhood the Korvettes was originally an S Klein store. Korvettes eventually took over this location. The store stood roughly in the area where the Ikea is now, and I think it was 2 stories. The building was demolished in order to build the Ikea.

    I remember the mall kind of decaying in the 1970’s when newer malls like the “Sunrise Mall” were built. Eventually though they turned it around. I think the presence of Ikea and Target have really helped in that regard.

    Across the street from Broadway mall is a very large Sears store. It opened around 1964 and for many years was one of the largest Sears locations in the east. I think it’s still the busiest Sears on Long Island.

  8. So Korvette’s stood empty for like 20 years? Or did Ikea open in the 1980s?

  9. I forgot to ad this mall is unique in that there is no li bus service direct to the mall. One must take the LIRR to Hicksville.Once you get off the train it is a challenging walk south on Broadway. There is a 4 lane road that is next to imposible to cross because nobody stops at the stop signs. Although this road whose name i cant recall the li bus 22 stops here & it is 2 blocks south through a residential stree
    It is amazing how Broadway mall remains full dispite that roosevelt field is only 7 miles west. But Sunrise mall & Green Acers mall on Sunrise Highway are nothing to write home about.
    Give me Roosevelt Field or give me traffic!
    ha ha!

  10. This Mall Reminds Me of the Northwest Plaza that was posted earlier, especially the mall entrance. The corridors also remind me of the mall as well. Anyone agree with me?

  11. How many floors is that Macy’s? It’s huge.

  12. ikea opened in 1991 or 1992.

    the korvette’s later became a movie theater — when korvette’s originally was in the mall, a two-screen theater (known as the ‘twin theater) was where the ikea was later located, and it later expanded into a multiplex. from what i remember, the rear korvette’s area was vacant for a long time; now, most of the former korvette’s store is actually made up of the food court/multiplex (which took over the top floor of the renovated north wing in the mid-’90s)/steve & barry’s.

  13. also, the food court, when it was first built, was originally located where the target is. the corridor that led to the food court opened out to the parking lot until jcpenney was built.

    i think the only store that’s remained in the same place during my entire life (i grew up in hicksville) , aside from macy’s, is the frederick’s of hollywood located in the mall’s southwest quadrant.

  14. I’ll say one thing about broadway mall that food court is allways BUSY! Aside from that the only problem is can not expand outward do to closeness of homes that ajoin it. As i said before it is a few blocks to L I R R, As a resolt the only to keep the mall growing in the future is to deck parts of the surface lots & add on to the mall way from the residential areas. It will be easy do to the existing footprint of broadway mall, but it will have to be done long term servivial.
    What do you think?

  15. Very interesting mall, I can’t believe the Macy’s at this mall is 5-stories! Was this Macy’s/Stern’s, by some chance, built before the rest of Broadway Mall was, or something? (explaining the oddity of how tall it is, in contrast to the rest of the mall)

    And one last question, is this the last IKEA left in North America that’s located in a mall? (since the one at Potomoc Mills was relocated) You sure don’t see an IKEA just everyday within a mall, though it’s interesting that I read a rumor somewhere that once Mall of America/MOA(in MN) starts to undergo a new renovation and expansion within the next few years, that IKEA would become connected to the rest of MOA….

  16. I think it is the only mall where IKEA is attached to the mall and/or has its own mall entrance…there used to be an IKEA attached to Plymouth Meeting Mall in PA, but it recently relocated. To my knowledge, below are other malls where IKEA is located on the mall property or very close to it.

    – White Marsh Mall, MD: A very successful mall in the Balitmore area off I-95. Its location off the interstate and its IKEA location keeps the mall successful, eventhough Towson Town Center and Mall in Columbia are a little more prestigious and successful.

    – Garden State Plaza, NJ: Recently built across Route 4 from the mall on the land of the former Alexander’s…very profitable location.

    – Jersey Gardens, NJ: IKEA came first (right across the Turnpike from Newark Airport) and Jersey Gardens opened a few years later right up the street.

    -Mall at Millenia, FL: IKEA will be opening soon right behind this very successful Orlando Mall.

  17. I grow up on LI from the early ’50’s. I have not been back to the area for some time. The original Gertz building, was a 5 stroy building and I think is where Macy’s is now. Diagonally across from Gertz was the other large store in the mall, JJ Newberry’s an oversized 5&10 style store. The eastern end had a number of small shops including an optomertrist, where I got my glasses as a kid. On the western end, there was a supermarket, Food Fair (I think), a great pizza place and electronics store. On the eastern side where the truck entrance and facing Sears, they built several free standing restaurants, including a Nathan’s. The northeast corner where Ikea I believe was a movie theater. I don’t member Korvette’s there as we would either go to the one in Garden City near Roosvelt Field or the one in Huntington adjacent to the Walt Whitman mall. I also remeber there being a kosher butcher on the short northern wing (which was remodelled when they built the theaters)

    I am planning to go back to LI in the next 2 weeks and hope to stop there

  18. Korvette’s was located on the north side of the property (around where the original movie theater sat) and indeed was empty for ages (well over 15 years). There were actually two supermarkets on the property…the other was a Pathmark (which moved out when a new location was built around 1977 further north on 107)

  19. Gee, what did I have in mind in my last post…
    Mallguy, I actually visited Mall of Millenia in 2003. Traffic will be HORRIBLE if an Ikea opens.

  20. In the 70’s, where target is now, used to be 2 food stores across from each other. One , I think was Pathmark, One was a hills supermarket, they sat vacant for a long time. Where the food court is now but on the first floor sat Mid Island Twin Movie Theater, and the Department of Motor Vehicle was somewhere on the outside. The Old Navy Store was Bonds Mens Clothes. Sitting inside the Mall in front of Gertz was a trailer or just a retangular box which housed one of the best cookie bakers, Rachels Cookies. They used to go to each store every morning for coffee and muffin orders.

  21. Also in the eighties I sat in on many Mall meetings at Mid Island Plaza. The Mall anchors sat vacant for a long time. Mainly because Gertz had a 52% controlling interest in the board. Everytime a vote came up to approve Macy’s as a tennant, it would be voted down by Gertz.

  22. “including archetypal post-war suburbs like Levittown and Hempstead (which, with over 700,000 people, is the second most populous census-designated place in New York State”

    levittown is part of the “Town of Hempstead” (pop.763,000+ which is the largest town/township in the US)

  23. I grew up in Plainview in the 70’s and rembember taking the N78/79 bus to go to direct to “Mid Island Plaza” (now Broadway Mall) many times. It seemed more exiting then than it is now, even though I now live in the UK and only visit about twice a year.

    Believe it or not, in the 1970’s there was a plane that was parked in the parking lot outside what is now IKEA, that sold stereos. I remember climbing up the stairs to go in. Does anyone remember that?

    I think the reason why the new owners took away the bus stops, was that they wanted to attract customers who were rich enough to own cars and discourage people from just hanging out and not making any major purchases. Shame.

  24. I remember going to the ” Mid Island Plaza” way back in the 60″s with my family, and I distinctly remember a small snack bar in the lower level of Gertz that served the absolute most delicious frozen vanilla custard with either chocolate or strawberry syrup in a tall parfait glass! I Also remember a small clothing store in the center section of the mall having a fire which was followed by a fire sale where I purchased a smoked stenched multicolored satinish waist jacket for pennies on the dollar……Hey Man!..It was the 70″s!..Does anyone remember the custard or the fire?

  25. Macy’s is a 5 story building. If you go up to the 4th floor of the current store, you’ll see a set of very narrow blocked off escalators that go up to the 5th floor.

    There was also a Gertz furniture store next to the main building that I believe has since been torn down.

  26. YES I DO REMEMBER THOSE FROZEN CUSTARDS WITH EITHER THE CHOCOLATE OR STRAWBERRY FLAVORS, MAN THEY WERE THE BEST. I LIVED IN THE GARDEN APARTMENTS ON RICHARD AVE A STONES THROW FROM THE MALL. I ALSO REMEMBER (1963)THERE WAS A SMALL LITTLE AMUSEMENT PARK WITH A CAROUSEL. ON THE PROMENADE THEY SOLD THE BEST HOT SALTED PRETZELS FOR A .25 AND THERE WAS A FLAGG BROTHERS SHOE STORE, AND ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR THERE WAS A SLOT CAR TRACK. AHH THE GOOD OLD DAYS>>>>>>>>>>>.

  27. Wow ! Gertz must have been something ! I know Stern’s was ! I have never been to a Gertz or Stern’s that still had a restaurant on the island.Now everything is a Macy’s.Tell me, in addition to the snack bar on the lower level of Gertz, did Gertz and/or Stern’s ever have a formal restaurant on one of the upper levels ? Interesting about it being so tall. I remember Stern’s post 1950’s flagship (post NYC) had a restaurant that my family and I enjoyed for over 25 years at the Bergen Mall in Paramus. Incidentally, that store was four floors tall and there were windows all along the top so you could look out onto route 4 while dining in the full service restaurant. It was wonderful ! Thank you.

  28. Glad to see that the best frozen custard that ever appeared on this planet is not forgotten. It was always tough to choose between having the chocolate syrup or the strawberry syrup be put on that long spoon before it was plunged into the custard. And all for a dime! Over the years I’ve met many a person who has fondly remembered this amazing dessert and who has searched in vain for its rival ever since. If anyone’s got a suggestion, please do post it. Doubtless that hundreds will be in your debt!

    PS That great pizza place (terrific Sicilian!) in those days (referred to in an earlier post) was Pizza D’Amor.

  29. Ah yes Mid Island Plaza.
    -Buses stopped going there as mall did not want the Mall Rats.
    -Korvettes/S Klein was in back where movie theaters are now.
    -Ikea was built in parking lot and where Twin movie theaters were.
    -Gertz was a 5 story retail store(6 w/basement), Stens/Macys 5 selling
    floors(one floor storage)
    -Target/Penney area was nothing. just an entrance to that end of mall
    -When they enclosed it all they did was put a roof over it, looked like crap
    -now there is action in all parts of mall

  30. I have been telling my co-worker about the Gertz desserts in a glass, ( I always picked chocolate). I grew up in Hicksville in the 60’s, then we moved to Fla., in 1970, and I always remembered that treat as a kid. And yes it was 10 cents. On saturdays, me and my friends would go to Mid Island Plaza with 50 cents, and get a piece of the best pizza ever, at Pizza d’Amor, for 25cents, a coke for 10cents, and still have enough left for the Gertz dessert. Now I sound like my mother!!! It’s go good to hear other people remembering like I do. Bye for now

  31. Oh. of days gone by. Sid’s Pants had a store that had a sign on the door that said “Sid’s Pants…now open” and we all thought that was the funniest. Also bought my first bell bottoms from there for a whopping six dollars. I have been searching for years for people that remember that custard from Gertz…it never had a name we would just say we wanted chocolate, strawberry or plain. Someone, some where must know what they were and what they were called.

  32. I recall a musical event that took place on the north side of Nathan’s in the parking lot of the mall. A lineup of bands played all night into the next morning. We had a blast because it was an unusual thing to have in the lot of a mall and we just stay up all night and partied. I still don’t know why it was held, a benefit or whatever, but Nathan’s sure made out!..The only band name I remember was “Liquid Smoke”…I thought it was a cool name for a band. I don’t even know if they were any good!

  33. Was the chocolate syrup in the vanilla custard at Gertz called a “Black & White”?

  34. So many things I can remember about Mid Island Plaza. I grew up in Hicksville through the 70’s/80’s. I remember going to Pathmark and seeing the first Star Wars in the huge twin theater.
    Does anyone remember Wuvs? it was a small restaurant adjacent to the theater- you’d walk out the door where Korvettes used to be, and there it was. I think it closed right around the time the twin theater became a multiplex.
    I also remember going to Bagel Nosh, which was a stand alone store in the parking lot on the far NE side (right off of 106/107).
    Does anyone remember going to the Big Apple Circus that was there- I think that was sometime in the mid-late 70s.
    As I got older, my brother worked at Kinney shoes, and I can remember the stories he told about eating at the Hurdy Gurdy for breakfast and how nasty it was- or how about the game room….
    I can remember bringing dates to MyPie- that pizza place by the bus circle and getting my hair cut at the Rage (all the hot girls from HHS went there).
    Then there was Merry Go Round- probably one of my favorite stores in there during the 80’s- people who went there a lot probably remember Kevin- the black guy that seemed to work there all the time.
    O well- those days are gone.

  35. i loved going to the mall _mom would go in the 2 food stores out side the mall one was pathmark the other was always changing its nane and i would go in the oriental shop near the delicious square pizza place _it seemed they always ran out when it came to me and i would wait and wait _i spent alot of money in the oriental shop and the square tree shop decorating my room_the pretzel man out side of gertz and jelly apples 3for a quarter fabulous !!he even gave you an extra if one was burnt_ we were thrilled seeing john travolta on the roof of korvettes_my sister kept all the news clippings from that running of the bulls to find him event _as for the yummy parfaits that left gertz long before the store changed _i remember once again them runniing out of glasses and we would wait _the people would over flow into the mens dept>what exactly was it i remember really liking it but i dont rember what it was _was it ever duplicated? my mother would not always want to go for it because she knew the wait would be long _perhaps someone that worked there could tell us?it was like the starbucks of yester year!i got many an easter outfit in lerners and seeing all the buses arrive at that entrance _i dont remember a merry go round perhaps that came after my days for rides were over_i remember how exiting it was when you no longeR were rained on when you walked throug h from store to store _my mother adored newberrys and frankels she was always into the home_those days will never return_but its lovely to recall a more simple time on long island _now find out about thoe parfaits _

  36. its funny when people say the broad way mall i l have to correct myself because i still refer to it as mid island

  37. I remember the frozen custard with the chocolate sauce. It was the best.And I remember the pizza parlor where they had the booths and you could buy aquare pizza slices that were the best. There was also a pizza parlor otside the mall called My Pie and they had deep dish pizza that was really good. I remember the airplane outside the mall.that sold the sterio equipment. Great memories.

  38. Oh my God that custard was THE BEST EVER! I was 5 years old and I remember that creaminess and that chocolate syrup with the long spoon plunged into it. Heaven! And how about the merry-go-round with the brass ring I was unfortunately too little to ever grab one! And getting your golden book from Santa at holiday time. Great childhood memories!

  39. Hey, I worked at the Consumers Distributing for years! I remember working in the stock room down stairs,,,it was massive. Originally bright Orange and Blue, they revamped the color scheme in 1982 to grey and navy. It was located on the north end of the mall next what is now IKEA. As a student growing up in Hicksville…I loved hanging at either My Pie (which was really the mathematical symbol) and/or Ground Round which always had popcorn covered floors. Was there ever an Alexanders Department store locared near the mall? This is a geat way of remebering my youth!

  40. Ikea was built on the old UsGeneral site, the food court and current theaters are built further west where EJ Korvettes was Target was built on the west end where Food Fair and Path Mark used to be. Between what is now Ikea and what used to be corvettes was the old Mid Island twin theaters
    That great little pizza place was Pizza Di Amore. Gertz used to have the “Malt Shop” snack bar by the west entrance on the ground floor. The Long Island Room restaurant was directly below it in the basement.the custard at the snack bar was just called a malt and you could get either chocolate or strawberry

    the restaurant on the east end was called the brown com and made chocolate egg creams, it was between the rear enterance of learner shops and the horne and hardart store. The Air plane was the “Fly By Night Audio store” the store lasted a few months but the plane was there for years after untill they cut it up for scrap and hauled it away.

  41. They may have referred to it as “Malt”, but that was no malt!..It was much more similar to ice cream because it was a creamy solid….And it was better than any ice ceam I have ever had, before or since.

  42. I grew up in Hicksville and as a teen took the bus to the Plaza to hang out on weekends. Those were the good old days. I remember the custards with the chocolate syrup being called a brown cow. They were so good I don’t even remember them having strawberry and yes the pizza was he best. It was so good it seemed like you always had to wait for a slice because it was so busy.

  43. As kids we used to take the bus to Mid Island. I haven’e been there in years, but I was there a lot.

    Gertz: I remember the snack bar, it was at the west entrance on the main floor. I remeber then dessert as like a soft serve ice cream, of course I could be wrong but know chocolate was the one I went for.
    To the left of the south entrance (as you entered) there was a wide staircase that led to the lower level Bargain basement. There were 3 automatic elevators mid-way on the west wall beyond the snack bar. Full size escalators were used from basement through 4, a narrow escalator led to 5 (and the toy department, I remember that clearly). Furniture was on 4, I believe, There was an entrance at the NW corner that was diaganolly across from Newberry’s, (which had a larger snack bar) a second entrance centered on the West wall. In Gertz, between these 2 entrances on main was cosmetics. I remember my Mom sold “Charlie” fragrance there, that damn jingle played over and over on a continuos loop tape machine. Made everyone insane. Mom wisely moved to Men’s, the south side of main. I believe there was a portrait studio on main near the east entrance. As I recall, there was also a large ladies lounge on the west side of 2, but am not positive. In the 70’s there was a grid type system in Young Mens with stairs that created an upper level shopping on the main floor. Pretty snazzy. I bought my first leasure suit in Gertz, I still have it. Isn’t that frightening.

    The Gertz furniture building was built much after the main building, and as I recall it was originally was outdoor (patio) furniture. I belive it said “Gertz Outdoor” on the building at some point.

    As for the rest of the mall, of course “Pizza D’Amour” was the best. My shoes came from the “Buster Brown” store, my suits from “Bond.” I always found it interesting that there was huge “Sears” across Broadway, but Roosevelt Field simply had a “Sears” catalog store located down from “JC Penny’s” past “World Imports.” Let’s not get into Roosevelt Field, I worked at “Gimbels” there for a number of years. Fun times.

    No One mentioned the STAR! there was a huge St. Louis style arch on the Broadway side,, suspended from the center was a multi faceted star made from the same material as the fiberglass panels. It was taken down when the roof was installed in 1968, the two side supports and star laid on the ground for a long time after.

    Thanks for all your comments. Great fun.

  44. I remember seeing Leonard Nimoy who beamed down to Korvettes about 1975? (I was 11 years old at the time), as I was a big Star Trek fan then. Of course, he was helping to sell Star Trek toys in their toy department.

    Lotsa people; the line seemed to go on forever and I waited for over an hour.When I finally met him, he shook my hand and said “hello!” It lasted about two seconds, but it was a memory of a lifetime. I left with a Mr Scott doll that my parents bought me along with a walkie talkie communicator set.

    I still have them!

    Have any other celebrities visited Mid Island Plaza/Broadway Mall? I think President Nixon paid a visit in the late 1950’s.

  45. I remember going to the Mid-Island Plaza shopping Center with my mother growing up in Westbury in the 60’s. We always stopped at the snack bar and had some of the most delicious ice cream with either chocolate or strawberry syrup. It was the best. I recently had some Breyers vanilla ice cream that had softened and that taste reminded me of that ice cream from Gertz’s snack bar! What a wonderful memory! I even called my younger sister and she remembered the ice cream, too.

  46. “Tricky Dicky” Nixon delivered a speech at Mid Island Plaza on September 28 1960 during the Presidential Campaign.

    I wonder if he chose strawberry or chocolate? ; – )

  47. Does anyone knows exactly when the Ikea store opened there?

  48. Hey, back again.

    I recently (December, 2008) visited the Macy’s store that was once Gertz. There is a lot of stuff still visible from the store I remember in the 60’sand 70’s.
    The staircase I mentioned in my previous comment is still there, it is not visible to customers on the main floor, but you can access it in the basement.
    The escalators are the same, with the distinctive blue fronts. The overhead sign fixtures are there. The elevators are also the originals. Its funny, I remember the sounds they make, very mechanical copmpared to the very quiet ones today. There is a distinct clunk at a certain part of the travel, probably the counter weight passing. The call buttons are small, black push buttons type, and match the ones in the car. The floor indicators are the original type, as well as the handrail. The interiors have been painted.
    Furniture is on 4, same as Gertz had, and you can see more what the Gertz layout looked like. The columns, some mirrored, the round ceiling ventilation ducts and flourescent fixtures, all unchanged.
    Someone mentioned the escalator to 5 is closed, true, hidden behind a door marked employees only.
    Of course the entrances on main are the same, but the west entrance is permanently closed.

    The Buster Brown store is now a Nationwide Insurance office, how dull. Most everything else of course is changed, but it was fun to see what was still there.

  49. I remember the airplane, it was originally called flight 107 and was a restaurant for a while. Also, us general hardware was a free standing building just to its rear.

  50. Nobody’s talked about Newberry’s! I was very young when it was around in the 70s but I thought it was sooo cool because it had two kitty corner entrances. You walked in where Auntie Anne’s pretzels is now and walked out by where Fredericks is now (approximately). So, you walked in from one “street” and walked out to the other “street”. I don’t know why but that fascinated me. Newberrys was a five and dime. I remember buying “notions” there (sewing stuff) and “bloomers” for my grandmother.

  51. I remember the west wing had a liquor store and a magic shop. The north wing had a women’s clothing store shaped like a river steamboat and was called “showboat”.
    The mall was managed by Franklin Frank and his son Kenny assisted him. I believe that the original Petland was there and they kept their tropical fish stock in the basement for the mall location as well as other branch stores on Long Island.

  52. Thanks for the memories! I had forgotten about that airplane/stereo store. One of the outparcel restaurants was a Ground Round, where my wife and I went on our first date. And we’re still together 27 years later.

  53. @Pete, IKEA was originally across the street next to where Sears was. I remember when they built both of those stores. Macy’s was originally Gertz since the mall had opened. In the rear of the mall, on the right side, there used to be a Hills Supermarket. It changed hands a few times. Bohack might have been there also before Hills. JJ Newberry’s, Chandler Shoes. I do remember the underground parking lot for deliveries. Gertz was 5 stories and no windows. I remember it when it wasn’t enclosed. I remember when you could smoke in these stores.. Those silver chargaplates they used for store credit cards. I will never forget the day my mother and I went shopping after she picked me up from St Ignatius. We were in Gertz on the 3rd floor. The power went out. You want to talk about dark???? We were told to stay put as there was too much smoke in the stairwells to use them. there was a fire on the 2nd floor. We could not get out. The fire dept. put it out and we finally went down the stairs. Gertz said no more smoking in the store after that without a law being made. I remember Hicksville before they raised the tracks.

  54. @formerny, Gertz did have a nother building which they used for furniture and seasonal items. Pools, grills etc. It was on the south side right next to Gertz. I do remember the custard.

  55. @RJ, Oh my, I think A&S did in Hempstead have a restaurant.

  56. @Doug K, No, a brown bonnet. A black and white was an chocolate soda with vanilla ice cream.

  57. @steve, yes, do you remember when Goodyear burned down across from St. Ignatius? They tore down that entire side of the street. I remember when they raised the tracks. I remember those escalator stairs to the top floor of Gertz. They were narrow. The elevators that didn’t work.

    Hand M is where the supermarkets were. The Ikea location wasn’t there in the 50’s. Either was the second floor or the roof.

  58. @Mike, I see a much different Hicksville than you all do. I remember when they built Division Ave and the library by the old high school on Jerulsalem. I grew up off 5th Ave and Brooks Street.

  59. @Michelle, Loved Newberrys. They had a great notions dept. I loved the basement of that store. I think they were where the Old Navy store is now. I remember when my best friend walked into and through one of the doors of the Chandler store. Before they required the cross bars and safety glass.

  60. We grew up in jericho and the Gertz parfait was always the highlight of going to the mall. It is one of those memories that I have to wonder if it could have been as good as I seem remember it being – but judging from these posts it must have been!

    The other must was Pizza D’amore. The most original and delicious pizza around. Thin crusted sicilian rectangles with a rectangle of cheese centered on each slice. Crispy, bubbly, and hot. I always seemed to burn the roof of my mouth on the first bite because I couldn’t wait! They were not too big;my brother and I would eat 5 slices each.

    I have been hunting for its equivalent for years and have found some close, but not quite as good. If anyone knows of anything close, please post it here. Rizzo’s in Astoria is excellent and will remind you of it, but not a 100 % match.

    Does anyone remember the pizza place in Roosevelt Field that had very similiar pizza? Was it called Supreme? I remember a green sign…

  61. @mike, There was a pizza place in roosevelt field called pizza supreme which was just like Pizza D’Amore. Pizza Supreme still exists it is on Stewart Avenue, in a shopping center behind Roosevelt Field. It is the same Pizza. I go at least once a month. Brings back memories. The closest thing to those parfaits is soft Breyers with Midnight Moo (tastes like the syrup at Gertz) Midnight Moo can be purchased at Trader Joes.

  62. I guess nobody knows the recipe or the people who created those parfaits they were never duplicated-I returned to that mall recently sad that nothing stays the same

  63. @bill taylor, – I remember that airplane at Mid Island Plaza – I was a kid at the Burns Ave. Elementary school ?1975? next to the mall parking lot –
    When one kid said “hey theres and airplane outside !”-
    all lessons stopped as teachers and kids pressed against the windows to watch a full sized plane brought in on flatbead trucks driven accross the parking lot. After school – the boys couldnt help but walk over to see it – one trailer had the body of the plane and another trailer carried the two wings – over the next few weeks we watched ot being assembled in the parking lot behind Korvettes (where IKEA is now). It opened as a high end stereo store and you walked up the gangplank in the front to enter and you exited the rear fuselage door – how cool was that – I think it changed names to “Alarmingly Safe & Sound” and sold security systems+steroes before it closed. I think the plane was a DC-7 model. If anybody has photos – please post them.
    PS – the truck tunnel was a great place for skateboarding in the 70’s
    Also – does anybody remember the head shop at Mid-Island ?

  64. @steve, yes, yes, yes. I had a dream last night about Gertz and those frozen parfaits! That’s why I had to do some research on Gertz department store and find out if anyone remembered these desserts. I remember going to Gertz with my Mom and at the end of our shopping she would take me to the snack bar and I would have to decide whether I wanted the chocolate or strawberry delight. It always was a difficult choice. I remember the glasses were very narrow at the bottom and the long spoon never could reach the bottom where all the good stuff melted. It was very frustrating as a kid and I was always tempted to turn the glass over and pour it into the spoon. What do you think the parfaits where made from? I haven’t tasted anything close to them since, not Carvel, Mr. Frosty, Dairy Queen. What a fond memory. Thank you for writing about your experience.

  65. I have read all of the above posts and I am going to mention 2 things that NO ONE else has talked about.
    FIRST I remember in 1960 when my father took me to the mall to see Yogi Berra, Whitey Ford and Mickey Mantle. My dad put me on his shoulders and we were only about 30 feet from the podium they were on.
    Second,
    Any one remember the slot cars down stairs?
    I do, went there often !
    Bt the way, I have figured out how to make those fabulous Ice Cream Malts from Gertz their…………….GREAT !!!!

  66. Surprised that nobody mentions the large Chinese restaurant, Longs, that operated in the western part of the mall for years. It was popular for take-out, and I remember well having to walk into the kitchen to pick up the order, which always came in a brown paper bag with the menue and bill stapled at the top. Netx to that shop was a bakery that always smelled great, but I am afraid that the taste didn’t match the smells. And, one of the grocery stores was known as Shop-Rite, even before it was Pathmark, Foodtown or later Mel’s. Don’t forget the S.H. Kress and the Kresges stores, as well as Frankels and Franklin Simon.

    Lastly, I will bet nobody remembers this. Just before the mall was built in the 50s, the Ringling Bros. circus made a stop on the site for several shows. The elephants and entire show unloaded at the Hicksville train station and moves over to the open site. No kidding.

  67. @Richard, Ok so give….the RECIPE!!!!

  68. @Michelle, also remember that Newberrys back then was was much larger (in terms of selling space) than what it ended up as by the time it closed. At one time there was an outside entrance that was eventually walled off

  69. I grew up in this mall. Some of my ear;iest memories are inside that old Korvettes.I ;oved that store. I remember it being empty until they gutted it for the movie theter/food court. I actually got in there when I was about 10 years old in 1985. We had some Cub Scout function outside the mall entrance to the store. They opened the fogged up sliding doors to the store a liitle bit so we could store supplies. I took the opprtunity to explore as some of the lights were on inside the store. The place looked like it was stopped in time! I felt like I was back in the ’70’s looking at the old color scheme/signs/mannequins-remember the old disco floor on the first floor by the escalators-it was still there! The place stood empty for another ten years. I miss WUVS. waiting on line @ Consumers for your purchase to come out. Frankels was next to Korvettes. Newberry;s was 2 floors w/a Coffee shop. Bonds Clothes. Rachel’s cookies that looked like a boat. The old Gertz store still shows through in MACY’S. Remember when the building was white? Gertz & Stern’s had the resteraunt up until Macy’s took over in the basement-the stairs are now a fire exit. The old Ground Round out on the street was the besr as a kid. The old theater w/the brick wall divider betwwen the hallway seats.
    Who remembers the DMV office downstairs
    This was when each mall had its own personality.

  70. Hey Tom,
    I remember everything you remember. We were in Troop 381 in Hicksville and I was at that cub scout troop! I worked in the mall for 9 years at the Ice Cream Corner. My friends Mike and Barbara owned it. Before that I worked in HBC Savemore
    (formerly Courtesy Drugs and The Patio (it was a pretzel place in the front and STILL is but it is called Pretzel Time now) I go there a lot as I moved from HIcksville to Levittown. We may know each other if you were in my troop. —-NIck

  71. @Jim, So where is the recipe? Did you ever get a reply from Richard? I grew up in Hicksville in the 60’s, so the Mid Island Plaza was a part of my life.
    I would love to get the Gertz malt recipe too…Pass it along if you get it…thanks Jim

  72. @steve, In all the replys and comments I have been reading here, I have been waiting for someoine to mention that frozen treat That is what I remember about Gertz and the Mid Island shoping plaza. I used to dream about my mother taking mne there so I could buy a chocolate syrup topped vanilla custard. Those were the days I wish they never went away…

  73. now in 2010 that mall is empty, Steve Barry which was under the food court is gone, starbucks was on cornor gone, b dalton is gone G&G is gone, lane bryant gone, Anex is gone, gap is gone, and the list gones on..

  74. Does anyone remember the name of the ice cream/custard treat from Gertz? A group of us were talking about taking the bus to the mall and of course stopping a Gertz for the dessert however, know of us could remember what it was called.

  75. @Peggy,
    The ice cream dessert you are talking about was in J J Newsberry’s, which was just across from Gertz. It’s funny that you mention this, because I talked about it in my family history stories that i’m working on.

  76. @a.coper, tuesday morning is gone, max rave is gone, marble slab creamery is gone, one of the jewelry stores is gone, one of the restaurants went away. the mall just looks temporary in a lot of places. in 2 cute, you can still see the suncoast movie company logo on the ground, the sam goody logo is still visible outside the designer shoe outlet. this mall is sadly falling apart. i still have no idea why there is a hollister in this mall. it is so out of place.

  77. @steve, Thank God someone remembers that ice cream besides me .It was the most delicious thing in the world and nothing is like it that I know of.

  78. Does anyone remember Delores the security guard?

  79. @Sandra, Was that the mean butchie woman?

  80. Hi Bob, Are you still at this website? I would like
    to talk to you about the mall.

    Thanks,
    Denise

  81. @steve, WOW I sure do remember the ice cream.
    I remember they used to run out of the long glasses and we had to wait from them to come
    out of the dishwasher and when they did they
    were still warm and the ice cream would melt.
    It is a wonderful memory. Do you remember the
    big star, my father always told me that was MY star.
    And the wonderful merry-go-round with the brass
    ring. I sure did LOVE that!

  82. @formerny, I remember we would go to Gertz
    before we went to school (Burns Avenue) and
    we would play hide and go seek in the store.

    Does anyone remember the pizza place with the metal trays. A slice pizza and soda was .25 !!!

  83. @DIANE,

    It will always be the mid Island plaze with
    star!

  84. @Peggy, Has anyone gotten the recipe?

  85. @Richard, I remember all the same stores…what about Newberry’s diagonally across from Macy? I also remember the very good malted Getz used to sell in the western side of the store on the main floor. You could get strawberry or choc syrup and all for 15 cents! Lastly I remember the Pizza place down by Long’s Chinese and they sold square pizza on metal trays which we used to use to sleigh ride.

    Does anyone remember when they handed out tokens for prizes for the mall?

    I am talking about 1959-1962

  86. I moved to Hicksville (Ohio St) in 1952 and watched Mid Island Plaza go up. We left hicksvill for Indiana in 1964, so we also watced it’s first transformation from an “open air ” mall to a closed one. At the present time I am freinds with a number of Simon (potential new owners) family and employees. These pictures and comments bring back very fond memories to this old man.

  87. I moved to Hicksville (Ohio St) in 1953 and watched Mid Island Plaza go up.We left Hicksville in 1964, so we also watched at’s first transformation from an “open aie” mall to an entirely closed one. At the present time am freinds with a number of Simon(potential new owners) family and employees. Thes pictures bring back very fond memories to this old man.

  88. I grew up at this mall too..even worked at Record World for a few years. When I was a kid however my greatest memory was seeing John Travolta at Korvettes. He had just put out an album and was going to do a record signing. The crowd was too large so they rushed him off to the roof and the crowd gathered in the lot and he did the Barbarino dance from the room top. I remember this so clearly because it was the same day that I was making my communion and wore my communion dress to the occasion…boy do I miss the Plaza!!

  89. @Richard, I remember Long’s — they started my lifelong love affair with almond cookies! Yum, I wish I had one right now…

    And I have no doubt that the carousel in the little amusement park is what started my love of horses too 🙂

  90. @Sandra, she is now a greeter at pathmark massapequa

  91. @sally,
    My cousin and I have been talking about this!! I remember my mother (who was raised downtown Brooklyn) used to tell us about “the drink you eat with a spoon” she’d get at A & S and “frozen custard” from a place on Court St. When I asked my cousin if she remembered it – she brought up the ice cream at Gertz. We don’t know if they’re the same thing. That and ‘mallow or mellow rolls”.

  92. @Pat, Those wonderful ice cream treats at the Gertz snack bar were called “WALK AWAY SUNDAES.” My HS boyfriend and I worked at the Long Island Room Restaurant in the Gertz basement around 1972-73. Often he worked the snack bar on the main floor (at the back entrance that was near the annex) where the sundaes were served.
    We used to joke about the name for the sundaes since they were served in tall thin (real glass) glasses and metal spoons were used to put the syrup in the ice cream (with a twisting motion which made a parfait look). There was a rule that the customers were NOT to WALK AWAY with the glasses and spoons!

  93. @Bob,
    Hi Bob
    I saw your posting and it brought back a lot of memories. My family was from LI and alought I grew up in Queens, spent most of my time there. I remember visiting Sears and the mall from about 1964. We took the train out that time and the tracks were at ground level. My parents shopped in that supermarket to while I bought records in a store there. How times change.
    I used to go to the movie theater in the 70’s as a friend of mine was the night manager. Do you remeber the old Raceway Cinema?
    Good to talk about the Good old Days even as I become one of them!
    Paul

  94. @Mary, we all remember the ice cream treat which was sold at Gertz, could it have been called “malt” ? It didn’t taste like malted, and it wasn’t a drink, we know that it was vanilla ice cream with either chocolate syrup or strawberry. And if you are intersted, Supreme Pizza on stuart ave garden city, nephew of pizza maker from D’Amore from mid island plaza pizza, had it today tastes just like it did back then. Its located next to tin alley restaurant bar, in the strip mall.

  95. @Denise Andrus, The Pizza place was the Hurdy Gurdy, it was near the Game Room.

  96. I discovered the mall in 1982, after I was all grown up. It was still called Mid-Island then. I made the scene too late for those wonderful-sounding frozen custard treats, but now I want one.

    I didn’t go very often, because it was a long drive. But it was worth it now and then to go to My Pie, the only deep-dish pizza on Long Island. It later became Gourmet Pizza and Things, then a gift shop, and now it’s Panera Bread.

    Mid-Island was the only mall on Long Island with two major bookstores, Waldenbooks and B Dalton. I could spend hours there. Now they’re both gone. I remember being in one of the bookstores one day in ’83, and a cute girl came over and tried to start a conversation. I got tongue-tied and couldn’t think of anything to say, and walked away. Oh, when I was young and stupid.

  97. I worked at the Mid Island shopping center in 1973 at the S J Kleins department store as an 18 year old Security Guard, standing at the doorways, watching for shoplifters. I also knew a guy at the B Dalton bookstore named Steve, a real nice guy. When you are young — and even later — you just don’t realize the precious things of life.

    Gertz was also there and 2years earlier, at the age of 16, my brother (18) showed me a book called the Primal Scream, the Cure for Neurosis. It became our bible as we had had a very rough childhood and felt we needed emotional help and we decided that we would seek this therapy out. John Lennon and Yoko Ono went to Primal Therapy as well as James Earl Jones.

  98. Oh yeah, it was S Klein where I worked, not S J Klein. Mid Island Plaza Shopping Center is how we called it. I used to go to Agway and buy gardening supplies. As a kid, gardening was my hobby. I used to pick up peat pots and seed starter mix. We spent many days at Mid Island. We lived in Levittown and it took us about 15 minutes to get there. What memories. This shopping center was one of the few happy places of my childhood. Yes, I remember the pizza place in the center of the mall. Thanks for reminding me.

  99. Ice cream malts from Gertz – the best treat
    to think they were only 10 cents when I was a kid .
    I am 66 years old. Does anyone remember the store in Mid-Island Plaza that carried the Romper Room Section I think it was Gertz . I believe it was in the basement at Gertz. I would bring my little sister there by bus from Carman Ave. in Westbury. Life was so much safer for kids then.

  100. Great to see how many other people remember that fantastic frozen custard -I knew it from the A&S [basement] in downtown Brooklyn – but it sounds like the same incredible stuff – 10 cents, 5 cents if you wanted the strawberry or chocolate topping, and all of it in those beautiful parfait dishes, at least back then –
    in the 1940’s and 50’s –
    haven’t had anything quite like it since!

  101. @Denise Andrus, Hi Denise, Oh that custard! I dream about that stuff. I used to get it at the 5 & 10 in Jamaica. I have been hunting around the web trying to find the recipe, that’s how I found this post.

  102. It has made me so nostalgic to read these comments! I used to go to the mall with my mother in the early 60s (when I attended Split Rock Elementary School in Syosset) and have NEVER forgotten the wonderful Sicilian pizza. Pizza d’Amore, wow!

  103. Yesterday or the day before there was a little segment in Newsday (It happened on Long Island) regarding the Mid Island Plaza. It triggered a lot of memories which led me to search out this site. I grew-up right behind Sears on Bay Ave. My brother and sister remember Sears as a potato farm and then and abandoned field which they played in. I was to young to remember that. We lived so close we usually walked to the plaza unless the car was required for heavy shopping. I too have the same fond memories shared by others on this site. I vaguely remember sought of a farm/petting zoo/amusement park outside the plaza. It had a large tree in the middle and small kiddie rides around it. Don’t know if it was a periodic carnival or permanent setup. Please tell me someone else remembers this so I know I’ve not completely lost it. LOL!

  104. @Phil, Still live on Burns Avenue – since 1960.. The airplane was called “Fly by night audio” it didn’t last too long! thanks for reminding me of it! 🙂

  105. Still live in Hicksville. I remember a lot of the old stores at the “Plaza” Food Fair, Pathmark, Pizza D’Amore, HIggins and Beckett, Friendly Frost, Newberry’s, Lerners, Frankels, Twin Theater, Gertz, Louie from the electronics store,Miles shoe store, Long Island Bank, My Pie, Korvettes, S Kleins, Jack LaLanne outside the mall. and Agway originally was outside the mall on 107 side. Ground Round, Nathans 🙂

  106. @Bruce, Found you post about Leonard Nimoy at Korvettes and it brought back a great memory. I too was there waiting to see him. I got to shake his hand, say hello and he even patted me on the head. Left with an autographed photo, long gone now. Thanks for sharing that memory. Mid Island Plaza made alot of memories.

  107. Those were the daze!! Bus 35c to the mall!! When we got off we would SKITCH on the busses going down into the TUNNEL! for those of you who dont know what skitching is- a dangerous joy ride of holding on to the back of a vehichle and using your CHUKKA BOOTS as skiis! CRAZY! then we would hang at the mall all day EAT Pizza DAMORE which was absolutly the best! then Im sure it was GERTZ that had that ice cream thing in the tall glass with a long spoon! wheres that innocence today GONE!

  108. @Brian H,

    I was at mi Pii to ( i don’t think it was my pie). I went on my first date and married the girl and we are still trying to find some place like mi pii……

  109. @Kenny Rohan,
    I think you were talking about Lollypop farm. It was on Jerico turnpike.

  110. I remember the Sicilian Pizza at the Bus Station in Hempstead. There was a time long ago the Pizza and a cold draught beer in the bar at The Coldstream was pretty darned good!

  111. @Bruce Levy,
    Yes. It was called “Fly By Night Audio.” I think it was a DC-3. Kinda like a long, cramped, narrow closet with not-so-hot prices. And regarding getting rid of the bus stops to discourage people who weren’t rich enough to own cars, they got that idea from Roosevelt Field. Can’t trust those Simon malls. Mark my words, they’ll be throwing the buses out of Walt Whitman and Smithaven Malls one of these days!

  112. @Phil,
    Ah yes, “Sunflower!” Never understood why my mom never liked going anywhere NEAR the place, but then, I was a kid…what did I know about head shops?

  113. @Anne, regarding where Newberry’s was, Michelle was correct. The store that you’re thinking of is Kresge’s. A true 5&10, it made Newberry’s look upscale. I remember playing on the pinball machine in the back.

  114. @Kenny Rohan, I don’t know about the farm, but I remember a semi-permanent but tiny amusement park (about three rides, all of them small: carousel, ferris wheel, and a train or car ride). It was in front of the Twin movie theaters (where Ikea is now). I think it ran only in the warm months. Like a groundhog that died during its hibernation, one spring it just didn’t revive. I think it ran for a couple of years, though.

  115. @Karen, OMG, Louie from Electronic City!!! I’d forgotten him! After they left the mall, he was still at the New Hyde Park location into the mid-to-late ’80’s.

  116. I’m surprised nobody mentioned the car wash that used to be at the extreme northeast corner of the parking lot. For a while, it was a ritual for my dad to bring the car every Saturday morning, naturally I’d tag along.

    After being closed for a long time, the car wash became a Bagel Nosh in the 1970’s. Then it became Boston Market (which I think it still is).

    Speaking of businesses in the mall that technically weren’t “in” the mall, I recall the Nathan’s that’s roughly where On The Border is now. The corn on the cob was good. I could never understand why people raved over Nathan’s french fries, though. Whenever I had them, they were from the Hicksville store, and they were downright foul! I think they never changed the oil in the fryvats, they only kept topping it up. I also heard that they were a good “stepping-stone” for summer work in that they’d hire anybody…no experience needed. The work was probably godawful, but at least you could find better summer/afterschool employment once you had some experience under your belt.

  117. @Bill, Now that I stop to think about it, Roosevelt Field still has buses stop there…it’s just really inconvenient. So I was too hasty to blame RF and Simon. My bad. I was being a total doody-head. 🙁

    Mid Island Plaza/Broadway Mall was actually the first of the malls to discontinue direct bus service (although in their defense, the buses stop about four blocks away at a major LIRR station. To the best of my knowledge, Walt Whitman, Sunrise, Smithaven, (and I think Green Acres) still have bus service SOMEWHERE on their property (although it could be someplace really inconvenient. I don’t know if South Shore Mall ever had bus service, or if it still does.

  118. @Bill, …and yes, I remember the big, weird tree. It was sort of like the rides kind of grew up and around it. I think the merry go round actually had a brass ring you could try to grab. I was very little and was terrified to reach out for it, but the big kids could. Wasn’t there a white fence around the whole area?

  119. @Karen, Friendly Frost?!? Unless we’re talking W-A-A-A-Y back in the early days of the mall before my family moved to Hicksville (early 1960’s), I distinctly remember FF being in Westbury. Go on Old Country Road heading West. Go over Wantagh Parkway and make the first right onto Frost Street. FF was all the way at the end. I don’t know what’s there now other than Toyota Service.

  120. @Deb, I recall the Hurdy Gurdy. My mom remembers the proprietor hitting on her, even though I was in tow.

  121. Given how many hours I spent at that mall (as a child, a teenager, and as an adult) I have NO memory of Gertz’ sundaes!! Big brother does (to the point of describing the spoon was like a long-handled teaspoon with a twist in the middle), but not me. 🙁

    But I’m confused. Everyone seems to refer to this sundae/parfait as containing frozen “custard.” To a lifelong LIer like me, custard is an eggy pudding that is normally found inside Boston Cream donuts and Napoleons, but never in cones or parfaits. NJ folks (et al) call soft ice cream (like Carvel and DQ) “custard.” So which was it: egg pudding or soft ice cream?

  122. @Melinda,

    I enjoyed many of the frozen desserts back in the late 1950’s. I have read most of the posts here about what it was like.

    It was not ice cream, it had no malt in it, it was not like Carvel, it is not a pudding.

    One time a saw the blond haired lady adding more of the mix to the machine that made it. She put several half gallon containers of a premixed milk based product into the machine and turned it on.

    I have found anything like it in the last 50 years.
    You can not make it yourself.

    I have tried to recall or read about what the true name of the dessert was called originally, but have not heard the right name.

    If anyone recalls what Gertz called that dessert, please post it here!

    Thanks for the fond memories,

    Rich

  123. Many people have good memories! I worked at Gertz from April 1973- November 1975. Back then, Gertz used all 5 floors, for selling, with the fifth holding toys, sporting goods, cameras, records, books, stationery and housewares. The 4th floor was human resources, the cash office and furniture, 3rd, china, childrens cloths, layette and linens, 2nd womens fashions, and the first mens and women’s assorted departments, shoes, and cosmetics. Of course there was the basement store and Long Island restaurant. Yes indeed, E J Korvettes took over the spot where S Klein was, and where Ikea is was originally the movie theater. Gertz was the flagship, and when it was built secured a lease for something like $1 a year for 99 years as the main draw to the mall. The upper level was added at one of the wings in the 90s, when the movie theater was located upstairs along with the food court. Gertz also had two outside buildings. One near the store which over the years served as furniture outlet, garden shop, and various other departments, and further out in the parking lot a tire and auto repair center. Besides the normal chain stores of the time, like Newberry’s, several shoe stores, a luncheonette and Chinese restaurant, it had several small mom and pop stores.

  124. @Rich Dunlap, Since I worked at Gertz for a couple of years, I had many of those “sundaes.” For the life of me I can’t remember what they were called. The counter was on the first floor toward the back “mall entrance side.” I worked from 1973-75 and I believe the lady who ran it was named “Jackie.” She might have been the same person you remember, as it was such a family there, that many employees stayed on for 30 years and more. It was not like Carvel, or custard, and seemed somewhat artificial … you sort of had a feeling it wouldn’t melt without a welding torch! LOL! Served in a tall thin class, with the long handled “ice tea spoon.” She would squirt chocolate syrup down the side of the glass, turning it so it looked like a parfait.

  125. I don’t think that ice cream served at the snack bar in Gertz was a malt. It was some kind of whipped ice cream or custard.

  126. Thanks for all these memories guys. As a youngster I went to Mid Island all the time with my Gran and Mom. Standouts for me were like, Nuberrys, Hurdy Gurdy. Brings back so many good memories of the 80’s and early 90’s.

  127. Fond memories about the Gertz parfaits. I remember a shelf that went around the wall by the “ice cream” area where people would leave their empty glasses. Also, this dessert made me thirsty. Do you remember the water fountain that was there?

  128. @Chris & @Rich

    Re: Gertz Ice Cream

    On another site, someone said the ice cream was called “Frostee Malts.” On this site, someone called them “walk away sundaes.” I never had this treat & would love to try it if anyone knows of a similar treat.

  129. @Pat, I remember that ice cream it was the best I ever had, and to this day I have been trying to recreate that taste. I am truly amazed someone else actually remembers this..

  130. @Alan, I feel exactly the same..I wish i could go back, sit on one of those stools and eat my vailla ice cream with chocolate syrup on top. The best taste….

  131. @sally, I totally agree, its so good to know others remember this..

  132. @Denise Andrus, I remember all of those things..I am truly amazed that others had the same memories as me, how great is that..

  133. @Ang, I loved that Pizza! I used to work at Mays Dept. store in Levittown, and every Friday a bunch of us girls would go to that pizza place..It was so good and to this day I havent had pizza that good.

  134. Here is a picture of “Fly By Nite Audio” – October 1975. You can see U.S. Gerenal tools and Nathan’s in the background! I remeber this went up that summer and was taken down shortly thereafter. I remember walking through as a small kid and even then thinking how tight it was for a store. It was pretty cool to see the cockpit (open for observational gimick I suppose)

    http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/abnovinski/Misc/FlyByNightAudio.jpg

    Cool novelty, but not the best design for showing off various sound systems

  135. @FlyByNite,

    Awesome. Can’t believe it’s been almost 37 years.

    Thanks for sharing.

  136. @FlyByNite,

    Thanks Bill. Great photo!

  137. I grew up in Hicksville and still shop at the Broadway Mall. I have fond memories of Mis Island Plaza, which was adjacent to my elementary school. Where Target now stands was Food Fair and Shop Rite. Then Pathmark. There was a great Pizza place’ Pizza D’Amour a Chinese restaurant’ Longs. And a Kosher deli. The electronic store was Lectronic City. there was a Newberrys and a Kresgese and a lot of shoe stores. kliegs came in in 1969 and later became Korvettes. There was an upscale women’s clothing store near Gertz called Casual Corner. Gertz had a snack bar near the mens department entrances that sold soft ice cream with syrup for ten or fifteen cents.

  138. Broadway Mall despite it’s size & location 7.5 miles from the enormous Roosevelt field, has been able to atract most of the mid-range stores & keep vacancies to a number that can be counted on one hand. They were able to atract Buffalo Wild Wings & Panera Bread wich is somewhat impressive considering that there are better sites along Old Country Road. There just happens to be one in Carl Place 1.7 miles from here on the formentioned OCR.

    As a footnote on Roosevelt Field, a new wing featuring Nassau Counties first Neiman Marcus is scheduled to open in 2015. It will be constructed ajacent to Macy’s, Bose & Disney. Currently Au Bon Pain, Sir La’ Table, Lush, Havana Central &The Capitol Grill are currently under construction while Skinny Pizza recently opened. There’s alsa a Tesla dealership opening in November.

  139. @SEAN, I was refering to Panera in the middle of my last post.
    The extensive use of windows & skylights give the mall an airie feel. Roosevelt Field prior to the renovations in 1996 on the other hand, felt enclosed & constricting despite the malls enormus footprint. After this renovation things were much improved except for two things… first when crowded thee noise level gives the sence of being inside of a drum with all the hard surfaces & second, the food court layout in the shape of a blimp is overwelming to navagate when also crowded. I do like the concept however since it reflects the idea of flight & this was an airfield originally.

  140. I remember Gertz. My father was the corporate physician for the department store. He started in Jamaica and moved to Hicksville because of the Gertz at the mall. Yes Gertz had a more fomal restaurant and snack bar. the medical offices were on the third floor behind children closthes. the fifth flor was at first furniture and appliances then became corporate offices in the 70s. Some stores in the mall were EJ Korvette at the north end. Andrews Men clothes and Lorrys Mens Clothes. My father bought clothes at both. JJ Newberrys had the worst smell from popcorn and candy sold at the entrance. ABC records-where in the 70s a group of ypung girls were looking at some records and saw Paul McCartney and Wings albums and then commented that he was also in some group named the Beatles, they never heard of them. I wouldn’t believe it if I weren’t there at the time. Must have been mid-70s. I haven’t been to Hicksville in over ten years. It will always be Mid-Island to me

  141. @maura, I worked at Consumers and the best part of the break was hitting WUVS…it had great burgers but the fixins’ bar was awesome. Great Fries…and Rings…but the burgers were memorable!!!!

  142. I loved working at CONSUMERS…It was always busy. I remember my manager was a tough young woman who like a football coach whipped the staff into condition. I worked both the stock room and jewelry and during my last years a really great manager…John took over. Great fun..especially using fake names over the intercom! Consumers became the present day …Amazon!

  143. No conversation about Mid Island will ever be complete without talking about the Sunflower Shop, the first store on your right when you entered the mall from the East main entrance. In the back of the store was a black light room, with black lights and black light posters. They had chairs in this room dso you could go in and sit dow. In the mid-to-late ’60s and early ’70s, when hippies were all the rage and LSD and pot (never knew why they called it pot) were available in every Long Island public high school bathroom, guys and grils who were tripping or stoned would go into that room and sit there all day until they came back down to earth. Was pretty sick when I think back on it now, but you were really cool then if you had the cajones to go sit in the Sunflower Black Light room.

    In the early ’70’s, I guess the store had seen its peak, there was a whole lot of pressure coming down on schools and malls and any place where kids hung out to make drugs an enemy (that’s when the “war on drugs” started), and the Sunflower shut down. Import Alley opened soon thereafter in the northern wing of the mall, and it was a really innocuous store of cheap Asian imports…but what paid their rent was that they sold pot pipes ! So every kid in the area during the mid-70’s got to know the Import Alley.

    Next to the Twin Movie Theaters was an outdoor type place, sold fishing and hunting and camping gear…you had to enter from the outside, there were two levels, one at street level and one down a flight of stairs…not a great business, but the owner got rich in the course of a two year period in 1971 and 72, because he had the only store in the area that sold these hideous looking drab pale green parkas with a fur-lined hood. For some reason, these parkas became a fad among Long Island teens, and this guy could not get them in fast enough to meet the herd mentality of teens. One of those strange things you remember from your youth…like the streaking fad in 1973-1975.

    The woman who was the head of mall security, always dressed up like a Canadian mounted police person, her jet-black hair looked like it was cut by putting a bowl over her head and cutting around it. Spent some of the best years of her life chasing kids out of the mall on Saturdays…that was her contribution to the world. I think she was probably the first lesbian I ever saw, maybe the second after the elementary school gym teacher who looked like a Russian weightlifter.

    And then there was Deutsche Jewelers, a couple of store to the east of Gertz…they made a lot of money selling those sterling silver i.d. bracelets that guys would buy to give to girls they were going out with.

    The rest of the memories have been covered already…we should all contirbute this into one book written collectively, “Confessions of Mall Rats : Circa Late 1900’s”.

  144. Spent much of my childhood at Mid Island
    Plaza. Lived in Westbury attended Burns Ave and graduated Hicksville High 1971. From the dessert at Gertz to Pizza and going next store to buy a single record at the record shop life was good Arround 1971 through 1973 worked at the movie theatre as a candy girl. Th ushers would help people to their seats and wore tuxedos. There was a guy there that I thought was so cute. Black hair blue eyes. To this day I thought it was Alec Baldwin. Age doesn’t match dates though. When I was 14 my mom would allow me to take a bus from the back of the mall to Jones Beach. That was cool.

  145. I remember when the Hicksville Mall was built. I worked there while in HS at Island Trees in the Bonds Clothing store. In 1964 I was working as a window trimmer and we had Andrews as an account. Back then it was a corner store near Gertz. Later when the mall was closed in it moved to a more central location. The owner of the store got his start selling clothing at the Farmer Market. The Hicksville store was his first one. He later opened two others one at Roosevelt Field and the other in Bayshore.

  146. Born 1957, grew up in Syosset, now I live in Hicksville.
    this brings a lot of memories. I remember Newberrys. I especially remember the giant star. Does anyone know where there are old photos I can show my kids? I remember a slot car racing club in a basement. I think that building was demolished(?). When I was a kid we used to take the LIRR to the mall. Syosset still does not have buses! I also remember a tool store by where IKEA is. That was in the 80’s.

  147. @Matt, No F’n Way..! My mom asked me Last night if I still had my Leonard Nimoy autographed Photo from Korvettes, then Tonight on FaceBook a friend posted a Picture of “SPOCK Meeting Jimi Hendrix”… It Inspired me to GOOGLE… “Leonard Nimoy appearance at Korvettes NY 1970’s”….. and here we are !!!

    I WAS THERE !!! I was around 8 years old then, big Star Trek Fan also. He was there Helping to Sell Star Trek Toys.., Here’s a Kicker…. MY FATHER WAS MANAGER OF THE TOY DEPARTMENT IN KORVETTES AT THAT TIME.. ( SmithHaven Mall Mainly but they Brought Him in for This Event… ) I Remember the Long Line but I was like number twelve in Line because of my Father.., A Hand Shake, Autograph, Pat on the Head lasted a Few Seconds but A Great Memory..! I had a Phaser and, Walkie Talkie Communicator set also.. Always Wondered about the Color of that Communicator Walkie Talkie sett ?.?….. I HOPE IT’S ALL IN MY PARENTS STORAGE… WOW, I’m 45 now and just found two People who shared that Experience, Space and Time… Pretty Awesome 🙂

  148. @Ang,

    Pizza Supreme, the little rectangle pizza (they call it square) with the one big slice of cheese. They used to be in the Roosevelt Field Mall in the 70’s and early 80’s, across from an Alexanders Department store and near a video game hangout called Timeout. Pizza Supreme’s square pizza is so good, I was estatic when they resurfaced in Garden City behind the Mall. They’ve got a painting on the wall of the old place.

    I really wish I knew who the Owners and operators were for the MY PIE pan pizza in the Broadway Mall. My PIe was dark, candle lit with a wall full of colored bottles. I loved that place, the pizza was out of this world. I don’t know why they didn’t succeed, it’s a shame because they would have thrived today. The Ikea and Target as anchors really brought that mall back to life. If My Pie ever resurfaces, someone please post where we can find them. I wish i had the name of the owners so I could track them down somehow and convince them to go back into the pan pizza business.

  149. My grandmother took me to the Gertz in Queens for the frozen custard with the chocolate syrup a few times and my mother took me to the Gertz in the Mid Island Shopping Center in Hicksville many times in the 1960s. For those of you who never had the pleasure of having this delicious frozen dessert, it was not a drink and it was nothing like an egg cream. I remember it as being vanilla flavored very soft custardlike ice cream. I do remember that they washed the tall glasses right there and I do remember the glasses being warm a lot of times. I only tried the strawberry sauce once and the other 25 or so times I had this dessert, I had it with the chocolate sauce. It wasn’t like hard ice cream and it wasn’t like carvel. It wasn’t like frozen yoghurt either. I think it was a very fluffy frozen curstard that had a lot of air in it. I had this dessert for the first tim when I was about 4 or 5 years old and I believe I had it for the last time when I was about 8, 9 or 10 years old. I wonder if I had it today, would I enjoy it as much as I did when I was a young child. Sometimes things aren’t as good as you think it was. My favorite moment was when they handed me my Gertz frozen custard. And I hated it when I was finished with it and there was nothing left in my tall glass. If I close my eyes and think really hard, I can sort of remember the taste, the texture of the Gertz frozen custard. It was sort of like Dairy Queen but more custardy and fluffier.

  150. Way before Korvettes there was a precursor to Home Depot, I think GIF or GFI, roughly where Ikea is now. There was Electronics City, Jamaica Refrigeration, Pizza D’Amore, Flagg Brothers Shoes, Andrew’s (men and boys clothing), Longs (Chinese retaurant), Arthur Maisel’s Restaurant, The Brown Cow, Horn and Hardart, Bond, A.S. Beck Shoes, Loft’s Candy, Barracini Candy, Electronic City, Plaza Deli, Plaza Barber (the only original still in existence but in a different location), and others that I do not immediately recall

  151. @Anne,

    IKEA never was across the street, next to Sears.
    It stands on property that used to be the Twin Theaters, called Twin North and Twin South.

    The supermarkets in the back of the mall were Pathmark on the south end and Food Fair (later merging with Pantry Pride and also Hills), on the north end. When the mall was remodeled as the Broadway Mall, Pathmark moved to Jericho (into a new mini-mall, which is now a Waldbaum’s, no longer a mall either).

    Incidentally, the Broadway Mall remodeling included experimenting with carpeting which proved to be a disaster, with spills and was not replaced, but removed.

  152. On a recent trip to several malls on LI, I noticed that the outside of the Macy’s location at Broadway Mall was shrouded under construction tarps. It appears the building is being refaced to give it an updated look.

    Despite it’s smallish size, nearly all the mid-tier national tennents are represented & the vacancy rate is extremely low. Most of the stores here can also be found at Green Acres it’s onetime cousin as Vornado sold Green Acres to Macerich along with Kings Plaza for $1.25 Billion. Chances are that Vornado will sell the rest of their retail assets to raise capital.

  153. the icecream/custard at gertz nothing even close to it well iv done some reseach number 1 the machine is the sweden soft server not sure if they still make them? but i hear they were not easy to keep working number 2 being from sweden the logistics you can only imagine the problems number 3 the cream mix back in the day late 60s 70s was heavy in egg yolk would have to make it special order but if you had the money to invest skies the limit would be huge

  154. KKR Adds to Malls With $94 Million Long Island Purchase

    By Hui-yong Yu Feb 26, 2014 5:11 PM ET

    KKR & Co. (KKR), the private-equity firm that raised $1.5 billion for its first real estate fund in December, and its partners bought a suburban New York shopping mall from Vornado Realty Trust (VNO) for $94 million.

    The 1.14 million-square-foot (105,600-square-meter) Broadway Mall in Hicksville, Long Island, was sold to an investor group including KKR, Cushman & Wakefield Inc. said in a statement today. KKR teamed with Broadway Mall Pacific, a partnership of Pacific Retail Capital Parters, Clifton Realty and Peter Fair of Continuum Partners, for the purchase, said the brokerage, which represented New York-based Vornado. The real estate investment trust said on Feb. 14 it agreed to sell the mall. It didn’t identify the buyer.

    “This was a rare Long Island mall offering, and with its great demographics it attracted considerable interest,” Andrew Merin, a Cushman broker, said in today’s statement. Almost 20 prospective buyers toured the property, “an indication of the fact that retail continues to be a strong performer in the heavily populated tri-state area” of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut.

    KKR and TPG Capital are among U.S. private-equity firms expanding in property investments to diversify beyond corporate buyouts. Within retail, KKR has bought three regional malls, including Broadway Mall, and one outlet center since it formed a real estate unit in 2011. The New York-based firm said in April 2013 that it was part of an investor group that bought the Colonie Center shopping mall in Albany, New York, teaming with the same partners it had for its first retail deal in April 2012, the $196 million acquisition of Yorktown Center in the Chicago suburb of Lombard.

    Outlet Center
    KKR also entered the outlet-center business last year by winning a January 2013 foreclosure auction for Legends Outlets Kansas City. The purchase price was $131.5 million.

    Broadway Mall was built in 1956 as an open-air center, enclosed in 1972 and renovated in 1991, according to Cushman. It is more than 90 percent occupied and anchored by Ikea, Macy’s and Target stores, the brokerage said.

    “With a targeted capital improvement program and a revamped leasing strategy, Broadway will be a more attractive home for current and prospective retailers,” Ralph Rosenberg, KKR’s global head of real estate, said in a statement today. The mall generated about $300 million of retail sales in 2013, according to KKR.

    Broadway Mall is KKR’s 15th real estate fund investment since 2011, according to the statement. Before raising a fund, KKR used mostly its own cash and money from its credit division, KKR Financial Holdings LLC. The credit unit also invested in Broadway Mall, KKR said.

    To contact the reporter on this story: Hui-yong Yu in Seattle at hyu@bloomberg.net

    To contact the editor responsible for this story: Kara Wetzel at kwetzel@bloomberg.net

  155. @Jerry, Gertz had a custard bar and a small restaurant, It was 5 stories, where Macy’s is now. The top floor was offices.

  156. @Bill, I remember that amusement park….It did have a white fence.

  157. @ed, No, at the Plaza. In the back,

  158. I visited Broadway Mall about a month ago and was saddened how different it was from how I remember it in the 70’s and 80’s. Anyway, I came across this video from the early 1960’s (before my time) showing some interesting scenes of Mid Island Plaza. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah3NVknsMs8

  159. @Freddie Films,

    I’m fairly sure the Nimoy appearance was 1976,
    but might’ve been 1975, can’t quite peg it anymore.
    Better late than never: dunno if anybody still
    checks this page, but I also met Leonard Nimoy at this event, was there with my Dad (parents might both have been around but I was online with Dad) and all I know is, there were at least several hundred people there waiting on line for a good 1-3 hrs, and also, I had that small still photo of Nimoy
    as Spock for years, but mine was NOT
    autographed by hand, a fake still, just a printed
    signature as far as I recall. I have lost
    or misplaced it, sadly, in the decades since.
    It was a huge thrill though meeting Leonard
    and he was a huge, tall, happy, grinning, energetic
    presence above me, shaking my hand
    and my Dad’s, etc. It was totally a rush!
    He went down that line of fans like an utter
    pro but he seemed genuinely happy to
    be there. I hope he had a stake in the
    toy royalties deals!! (since the first ST movie was
    still 5 years on!) Anyway, posting all this in research on the event, and in loving memory of Mr. Nimoy,
    who just passed on this past Friday.

    Scott from LI
    (p.s. I grew up in Levittown so spent
    inordinate hours at the mall as a kid
    and teen even worked there briefly
    into my early college years in the later
    80s–I worked at B. Dalton Books which….
    sucked, hated it, hated the people there,
    and hated the awful muzak and some
    really weird people that worked that mall)
    Also kinda hated Merry Go Round later cause
    they were such money grubbing scam
    artists with expensive and ultra-trendy
    trashy clothes. Chess King was da bomb,
    plus later VIM was good for high school
    days cause it was more affordable and “hip”
    street and club clothing, sort of.
    Waldenbooks was good, as
    was the game room, Newberry’s,
    and the movies, and Nathan’s,
    and the ice cream shoppe and
    Record World were also amazing!
    Mall still there, but not the same, alas.
    Also miss the cool hobby shop near
    the old pizza place that I bought my
    first Dungeons & Dragons (Basic) set at!!
    That was also utterly exciting you had no
    idea what was inside that box, precisely.
    It was rules, dice, and not much else.
    Geeking out. The pizza place was great
    but grease-pit and full of flies in the summers,
    nastee!

    Cheers,
    Scott

  160. @Rocky,

    Posted elsewhere (finally!) tonight 3/1/15
    re: my being at Leonard Nimoy’s appearance at Korvette’s here in 75 or 76: anyway, was too young to recall any army parka craze on L.I. but having
    later become rather an expert of punk/mod
    and the 60s and fashions, sounds like the “parka
    craze” was a holdover from The Who’s Quadrophenia album, released 1973 and
    huge through the next several years even though
    the film didn’t show up till 1979: and predates the second (but never final) “Mod” revival of 1977-1981 or so, but that was in UK mainly. ANY Mod worth his salt would have tracked down a solid M-51 or whatever it was US reissue or orig. issue Army fishtail parka. Or something nearly of the same description and it would absolutely have had a liner and fur lined hood if it was the real deal.
    Today they are hard to come by, expensive,
    and reissues by Ben Sherman etc. usually
    sell for at least $130-500.
    Mods would decorate ’em with badges, patches,
    and slogans on the back, etc. Just conjecture
    but they would probably have been heard to
    come by in those days except a good solid
    Army-Navy shop, etc. In my nabe I don’t recall
    Vespa or Lambretta scooters being cool AT ALL,
    but basic hybrid mopeds were and a few of my neighbors had them! Or mini-bikes (the smaller
    motorized motocross style bikes with wide
    but short deepish leather thick seat etc. and
    spare black metal frames and all that).

    Scott B.
    LI NY

  161. @Mary, Sorry to see it’s been so long since anyone posted on this site as I’ve been in search of the Holy Grail of ice cream oriented treats since my teens when I discovered what my brother and I labeled “Gwapal” because it tasted like a combination of Soft serve ice cream, Gelato and actual custard! It was labeled French Custard as I recall and it was a long teaspoon full of chocolate or cherry I am pretty sure as I have a toxic memory for such things. I’m also writing a book about growing up on the North Shore of Long Island (The pretty side on the other side of Northern Boulevard) as for all this talk about Target and Ikea I could care less I lived near the biggest mall in America for 14 years the Mall Of America or as I call the sprawl of America; I will have to check out that pizza place as the machines that made it came from Europe I have been told.

  162. @Jeff G., People are confusing the Roosevelt Field mall with the Gertz mall in Hicksville! I worked at the Gertz store for several Christmas’s when I was in college and I definitely was not at Roosevelt field. The snack stand was located inside the Gertz store in Hicksville and no where else that I know of.

  163. @susan kunnemeyer, It wasn’t on top Susan they dipped the long teaspoon with the chocolate or cherry syrup all the way down into the French Custard!

  164. I don’t know if anyone gave the name yet-I haven’t read the entire thread, but that delicious frozen confection was called a “Frostee Malt” My father would take me to Gertz and it was the best ice cream I ever had!

  165. @Freddie Films, Hi Freddie. Just found this post again after almost 4 1/2 years. And read your reply. Was doing some research on old LI places and landmarks and gravitated back to this site. Sorry I did not reply earlier. Yes, now that Mr. Spock has died, these memories become all the more bitter sweet. I can remember looking up at Leonard and thinking how tall he was. I must have been 9 or 10, but a very big Star Trek fan. I wish I had that photo now. Another victim of time. I remember building models of the communicator, tricorder, and phaser. Coolest models. And of the Enterprise and the Klingon Battle Cruiser. I also think I did the Shuttle Craft. I was a big model builder back then. Wow, some really great memories. Reading all these posts about Mid Island Plaza it’s really easy to get lost in time. Read one post about a guy commenting that it was really nice to remember the good old days as he becomes one. I know what he means. Thanks for your reply. It brought back a lot of great memories. I had forgotten about the models of the Star Trek items. They were treasures! Thanks again.

  166. Lived in Hicksville until 1982. During the late 60s and the 70s, I’m surprised nobody has commented about three other stores I remember specifically. One was a craft store, Loki Crafts, where I bought many of my plastic car models and the other was Cherry Hill bookstore. If I remember correctly both of them were on the same side where the Longs Chinese restaurant used to be. The third store was a RadioShack located on the backside of the mall which was only accessible through its own entrance from the parking lot and not from a mall entrance. I remember working at the Bonds clothing store one summer before college. Used all my commissions to pay for my college wardrobe next year. That was great. Right outside of Bonds there was a kiosk type restaurant/food stand that sold the best potato knishes. When people mention Electronic City, all I need to do is look over to the stereo cassette boombox I bought there and I still have. Damn thing still works. I do have a vague recollection of Louie. One post was about the popcorn smell and Newberries. I can still remember that smell. They had one of the best toy departments so you had to pass the smell in order to get to the toys. I believe the toy department was downstairs. Hicksville sure has changed. The one post that mentioned that it was much safer for children back then sure hit the nail on the head. Going to Mid Island Plaza was an event, something to be looked forward to. There was another post that mentioned that back then each mall had its own personality. That is so true. Lucky for all the people posting here we can relive good memories in both text and pictures.

  167. @steve, I remember the custard. In fact, I found this page because I’m still looking for a recipe for it. I’ve never tasted anything like it since. I lived in Hicksville from 1953-1963. My parents moved to Maryland while I was in 10th grade at HHS.

  168. @Rick Levenberg, I can remember the taste, too. The recipe must be somewhere. It couldn’t have just disappeared from the face of the earth. Even if it was premanufactured like someone above suggested there’s got to be a trail somewhere.

    I didn’t really like going shopping with my mom all the time but if she was going to Gertz, I always wanted to go – just for that custard. I was 10 more or less.

  169. @Paul,

    Was trying to figure out what Hurdy Gurdys
    was, I grew up in the area and lived in this mall
    in the 70s and 80s, I vaguely had heard of or recalled Hurdy Gurdys but don’t recall if I ate
    there or what. I recall MyPii much better,
    of course, and the other small pizza joint
    at the back end of the mall which is close
    to where Target is now. (this was near the
    game room and hobby store that were there
    in the late 70s and 80s)
    Anyway, apparently MyPii was a Chicago-based chain, I had absolutely no idea of that going there all the time in this period, but they still have one restaurant in Chicago, as per this web site:

    http://www.mypiepizza.com/

    The original owner/founder retired back in the 1990s and started shutting down all the satellite
    locations around the country, the site says,
    and now the owner’s son or whomever
    runs the last remaining restaurant in
    Chicago. Crazy! You can apparently still
    order pizzas from them shipped. I never brought
    dates here but I used to go there constantly
    from the late 70s to late 80s with friends
    and family to get a bite before or after
    shopping or hitting the old Hicksville Twin movie theater that was there which is now the huge
    multiplex, although in a different location than
    the Twin was.

    Yours,
    Scott Briggs
    LI NY

  170. @Doc Bruce,

    Most of these places have changed pretty
    drastically, and not for the better. Most of these
    malls now don’t have any bookstores, record
    stores, hobby game stores, nothing, including
    Broadway Mall. I grew up hanging out here
    constantly even riding my bike or taking the bus
    to and from here all the time every week really,
    from the later 70 to later 80s, when I still
    lived in Levittown (moved out in 1988).
    The mall inside doesn’t look that drastically
    different, but of course most of the shops
    are all different, and there’s the IKEA but
    that’s been there for years now, and the
    food court is fairly new we never had that
    in the 80s or even 1990s. They did away
    with the buses to the mall a few years ago,
    apparently. I still shop here from time to time,
    and the Target here, but I try to avoid Roosevelt
    Field since it’s even more gargantuan and
    annoying than it was years ago, and the
    parking is hellish. The movie theater at
    RF got so dangerous, cruddy and rundown
    they had to raze it last year and now it’s
    undergoing a major renovation.
    I pine for the days of the Hicksville Twin
    Cinemas that used to be at Mid Island
    Plaza, where a bunch of us kiddies
    saw Star Wars for the first time in
    1977, it was either opening week or
    the following one. I still have my
    orig. SW program book from that
    somewhere here. I used to love
    Mypii pizza, the Ground Round,
    and particularly Nathan’s in the mall,
    and the two bookstores, etc. the ice
    cream shop across from Waldenbooks.
    (a version of which may still exist).
    Also the Arcade/Game Room in the 80s was
    radical, Joann’s Nuts candy counter or whatever
    it was, and the hobby game shop at the far
    end of the mall near the old cruddy pizza
    place was pretty cool, I bought my first
    Dungeons And Dragons box Basic
    set there around 1980 or so. Too cool!

    Scott Briggs

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