Comments on: Burlington Town Center; Burlington, Vermont

By: AceJay

AceJay — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 07:21:45 +0000

Unless one of the malls is sold/becomes half-dead and then revives like Plymouth Meeting, there would never be any chance of two Nordstroms so close to eachother, with Menlo, CHM, and KOP not far away.

By: mallguy

mallguy — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 05:10:50 +0000

@SEAN, If Macy’s did close at Livingston Mall, Lord and Taylor would quickly follow. I do think though, that both (and hopefully they decide to renovate that Macy’s…they renovated the Brunswick Square Macy’s fairly recently, so this one shouldn’t be too far behind.) will survive and JCP will have to look elsewhere. There was talk back in the 1990s of JCP building an expansion wing, but that quicly died.

And I think Macy’s would close Essex Green before Livingston.

By: mallguy

mallguy — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 05:07:19 +0000

@AceJay,

I’m pulling for both of them! Sadly, it looks like both may be delayed a few more years due to this economy

By: AceJay

AceJay — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:23:46 +0000

Well, it could theoretically happen. The distances from QBM to KOP and OVM to Menlo are just about the same. someone at Nordstrom could figure that OVM may be better suited for a store. Still pulling for QBM though =/

By: SEAN

SEAN — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:30:21 +0000

@mallguy, Your right reguarding JC Penny at Livingston Mall if Macy’s closed. I’m just trying to think outside the box or in this case, the big box.

Also as you said, this is what happens when numerous department store nameplates are retired on mass. It puts malls in a weaker posission if they lose an anchor.

By: mallguy

mallguy — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 04:31:54 +0000

@SEAN, The only thing that could keep Livingston Mall alive if Macy’s ever closed there may be JCPenney, where the only other location in a 10-15 mile radius is Wayne Town Center. I do agree that Lord and Taylor would be a much bigger red flag for both malls.

Max, That is something to think about in regards to the health and stability of many malls if Macy’s closed. Now may be the time we wish the local chains like Sterns, A&S, Jordan Marsh, Strawbridges, Wanamakers, Hechts and Filienes were still around.

The only area where we may disagree is the need for a Macy’s in Monmouth Mall. There may be one in Freehold and in Ocean County Mall, but for many Eastern and Central Monmouth County residents, it’s a more convenient location than driving 15-20+ miles.

By: mallguy

mallguy — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 04:19:12 +0000

@AceJay, I would love to see Nordstrom open there, but I’m a realist and don’t think it’s feasible now with the economy, and the Quakerbridge expansion that is currently up in the air.

By: AceJay

AceJay — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:59:26 +0000

My bad, I meant Oxford Valley. It’s a shame they haven’t filled that yet.

By: SEAN

SEAN — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:45:44 +0000

@mallguy, I wonder If Kohl’s could work in the West Orange Macy’s without that lower level. Perhaps Bed Bath & Beyond?

I wanted to see Paul Blart because of the film being mall centric. I’m not a Kevin James fan at all, but Jayma Mays is adorable in this film. She was also in Red Eye with Rachel McAdams which I also like.

By: AceJay

AceJay — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 04:00:28 +0000

@Mela, BCM never had a Bosco’vs…you must be thinking of Neshaminy.
@mallguy, except there’s already a large Regal theater across the street. I do love the fountain(s?) though. But honestly, BCM is dead now. A shame – the Macy’s building has some pretty neat design inside, even if the actual store looks terribly old.

MAYBE the mall will attempt a Plymouth Meeting-esque revival (restaurants, entertainment, uniqueness (Whole Foods)) but I don’t see that happening unless a REAL REIT buys the mall.

The retail market just isn’t there. Being between the Turnpike and 295, you’d think it’d have some impressive retail developments, but it really doesn’t. Oh well!