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		<title>By: Thomas blackmon</title>
		<link>http://www.labelscar.com/texas/southwest-center-mall#comment-162615</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas blackmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bobby P., 
thanks...I finally found out I had spelled it wrong. Lol. Now it&#039;s a Hebrew school from what I&#039;ve read.  Great...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bobby P.,<br />
thanks&#8230;I finally found out I had spelled it wrong. Lol. Now it&#8217;s a Hebrew school from what I&#8217;ve read.  Great&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby P.</title>
		<link>http://www.labelscar.com/texas/southwest-center-mall#comment-162607</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Thomas blackmon, Olla Podrida Mall (O-ya po-DREE-duh, Spanish for potpourri). Opened in the 1970s, closed in 1996. It was on 12215 Coit Rd. south of the LBJ. Looks like there&#039;s an extended stay hotel there now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Thomas blackmon, Olla Podrida Mall (O-ya po-DREE-duh, Spanish for potpourri). Opened in the 1970s, closed in 1996. It was on 12215 Coit Rd. south of the LBJ. Looks like there&#8217;s an extended stay hotel there now.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas blackmon</title>
		<link>http://www.labelscar.com/texas/southwest-center-mall#comment-162442</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas blackmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked yor story and the details too. Good job. I was hoping you could answer a question about a mall in Texas,no sure of the location as I was a child when I was taken but had fond memories of it.  The place was called Ola padrea mall? Or a variation of that? Neat place and I can&#039;t find it. Is it gone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked yor story and the details too. Good job. I was hoping you could answer a question about a mall in Texas,no sure of the location as I was a child when I was taken but had fond memories of it.  The place was called Ola padrea mall? Or a variation of that? Neat place and I can&#8217;t find it. Is it gone?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.labelscar.com/texas/southwest-center-mall#comment-119783</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RB that was an urban myth come to find out. The story was that a kid got his penis &quot;:chopped off&quot; in the bathroom. Years later was found to be untrue. I got to see all the cool long hallways and tunnels of that place when I worked @ Aladdin&#039;s castle for a breif stint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RB that was an urban myth come to find out. The story was that a kid got his penis &#8220;:chopped off&#8221; in the bathroom. Years later was found to be untrue. I got to see all the cool long hallways and tunnels of that place when I worked @ Aladdin&#8217;s castle for a breif stint.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.labelscar.com/texas/southwest-center-mall#comment-119779</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good old Red Bird Mall was my haunt growing up in the 80 living in Duncanville. I knew this place inside and out as iI found myself working there in 88.
In 76 i was a kid still and loved the trips or drop-offs anytime that i could get there. In the beginning there was a kick ass accade called the Sportarama. All the Freaks used to smoke pot in the UV lit pinball room in the back while guests could ride bumper cars and play games till the wee hours.Ahh the smell of the games in there,, nothing like it !. Then it became the Kalidescope and things got freaky. This was prolly about 80 or 81.The bumper cars were enclosed and a freaky light show and vid projection screens were added along w/ very loud music. Man that was the shit for a young stoner like myself,lol. And we knew the dude that operated the ride ! hed let us go and go if no one was waiting in line to take this trip,lol.
But yes, RBM was THE destination of choice for years to come . Am going to look at these pics and maybe comment more but this really caught my eye,,, damn ,mom used to take me school clothes shopping there every year,,memories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good old Red Bird Mall was my haunt growing up in the 80 living in Duncanville. I knew this place inside and out as iI found myself working there in 88.<br />
In 76 i was a kid still and loved the trips or drop-offs anytime that i could get there. In the beginning there was a kick ass accade called the Sportarama. All the Freaks used to smoke pot in the UV lit pinball room in the back while guests could ride bumper cars and play games till the wee hours.Ahh the smell of the games in there,, nothing like it !. Then it became the Kalidescope and things got freaky. This was prolly about 80 or 81.The bumper cars were enclosed and a freaky light show and vid projection screens were added along w/ very loud music. Man that was the shit for a young stoner like myself,lol. And we knew the dude that operated the ride ! hed let us go and go if no one was waiting in line to take this trip,lol.<br />
But yes, RBM was THE destination of choice for years to come . Am going to look at these pics and maybe comment more but this really caught my eye,,, damn ,mom used to take me school clothes shopping there every year,,memories.</p>
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		<title>By: RB</title>
		<link>http://www.labelscar.com/texas/southwest-center-mall#comment-108887</link>
		<dc:creator>RB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know if the foolowing really happened there; I&#039;ve been told that this occurred in the early 90&#039;s and that ever since its when crime started to take over...a boy was assaulted, attacked sexually somewhere in the 1st floor restrooms when they were located down a long hallway? it supposedly happened between 1990-93</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if the foolowing really happened there; I&#8217;ve been told that this occurred in the early 90&#8217;s and that ever since its when crime started to take over&#8230;a boy was assaulted, attacked sexually somewhere in the 1st floor restrooms when they were located down a long hallway? it supposedly happened between 1990-93</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Collar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Collar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Laura, 

I feel those days are gone Laura.  At least for the most part.  A recent addition to the city of Atlanta is called Atlantic Station.  This project combined large retail space with residential towers that were in high demand in the area.   A micro-community of sorts where a resident has full access to amenities and retail on foot.  As usual, prices for residential space was kept high to discourage the criminal element, and if the area can be kept safe, it may stand the test of time.

Outside of that model, it would seem that shifting demographics and crime statistics are making a hit-and-run retail model much more attractive for a retailer to avoid heavy losses.  I would think that high rent and energy costs will easily stifle the old enclosed mall model.  Couple that with shifting economics and urban flight, and many nails go into that coffin.

It would seem that the tactics of Walmart are good example of hit-and-run retail.  Their model is mainly a stand-alone facility that is not expected to anchor a retail mall model.  These facilities can be opened and closed quickly, and are designed to pay for themselves in short order.  That model is highly mobile, and reacts instantly to fickle economics, demographic changes, and shifting crime rates.  It&#039;s much more survivable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Laura, </p>
<p>I feel those days are gone Laura.  At least for the most part.  A recent addition to the city of Atlanta is called Atlantic Station.  This project combined large retail space with residential towers that were in high demand in the area.   A micro-community of sorts where a resident has full access to amenities and retail on foot.  As usual, prices for residential space was kept high to discourage the criminal element, and if the area can be kept safe, it may stand the test of time.</p>
<p>Outside of that model, it would seem that shifting demographics and crime statistics are making a hit-and-run retail model much more attractive for a retailer to avoid heavy losses.  I would think that high rent and energy costs will easily stifle the old enclosed mall model.  Couple that with shifting economics and urban flight, and many nails go into that coffin.</p>
<p>It would seem that the tactics of Walmart are good example of hit-and-run retail.  Their model is mainly a stand-alone facility that is not expected to anchor a retail mall model.  These facilities can be opened and closed quickly, and are designed to pay for themselves in short order.  That model is highly mobile, and reacts instantly to fickle economics, demographic changes, and shifting crime rates.  It&#8217;s much more survivable.</p>
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		<title>By: Dante</title>
		<link>http://www.labelscar.com/texas/southwest-center-mall#comment-104002</link>
		<dc:creator>Dante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steven Wilson, thanks for the link!  The center court from the modern pics looked odd to me (not just because of the mural) and I couldn&#039;t figure out why until I saw the old pics.  They used to have that mid-level area in the center court that wasn&#039;t part of the second level or the first.

For some further historic info, there was a nice Aladdin&#039;s Castle inside and a cookie store by one of the anchors that made proper M&amp;M cookies (a sugar cookie with M&amp;Ms on it).  We used to get one and eat it in that center court.

There were two bookstores (B Dalton and Walden) which was pretty fancy for its day.  The anchors I remember were Sanger Harris, Sears, and JC Penney.  For some reason, I have absolutely no recollection of Titche&#039;s, Dillards, or Joskes being there.  Go figure.

It had one of the larger Oshmanns Sporting Goods I&#039;ve seen.  The center court had a ton of red carpet and the wood back then was all dark instead of that lighter color.  While it was technically the only enclosed mall in south Dallas, Six Flags and Forum weren&#039;t too far away.  Sometimes, we&#039;d make a Saturday of going to all 3.  

For years and years, there was a mattress store right off the Interstate.  Outside the mall in the same parking lot there was a Best and a Showbiz Pizza.  Other things in the mall area I remember are a Highlands electronics, a Luther&#039;s/Colter&#039;s, Mervyn&#039;s, and an awesome Mexican restaurant called the Monterey House.  We probably ate there once a week when I was younger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steven Wilson, thanks for the link!  The center court from the modern pics looked odd to me (not just because of the mural) and I couldn&#8217;t figure out why until I saw the old pics.  They used to have that mid-level area in the center court that wasn&#8217;t part of the second level or the first.</p>
<p>For some further historic info, there was a nice Aladdin&#8217;s Castle inside and a cookie store by one of the anchors that made proper M&amp;M cookies (a sugar cookie with M&amp;Ms on it).  We used to get one and eat it in that center court.</p>
<p>There were two bookstores (B Dalton and Walden) which was pretty fancy for its day.  The anchors I remember were Sanger Harris, Sears, and JC Penney.  For some reason, I have absolutely no recollection of Titche&#8217;s, Dillards, or Joskes being there.  Go figure.</p>
<p>It had one of the larger Oshmanns Sporting Goods I&#8217;ve seen.  The center court had a ton of red carpet and the wood back then was all dark instead of that lighter color.  While it was technically the only enclosed mall in south Dallas, Six Flags and Forum weren&#8217;t too far away.  Sometimes, we&#8217;d make a Saturday of going to all 3.  </p>
<p>For years and years, there was a mattress store right off the Interstate.  Outside the mall in the same parking lot there was a Best and a Showbiz Pizza.  Other things in the mall area I remember are a Highlands electronics, a Luther&#8217;s/Colter&#8217;s, Mervyn&#8217;s, and an awesome Mexican restaurant called the Monterey House.  We probably ate there once a week when I was younger.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan D</title>
		<link>http://www.labelscar.com/texas/southwest-center-mall#comment-103519</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That store entrance for Macy&#039;s looks exactly like other store entrances I have seen at Valley View and Collin Creek malls too. I guess either it was from the same architect for all three malls or a long gone store chain with a signature entrance may have been at each of them. Those tall white columns with the bright tile mosaic behind them can be found at all three malls as entrances for anchor stores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That store entrance for Macy&#8217;s looks exactly like other store entrances I have seen at Valley View and Collin Creek malls too. I guess either it was from the same architect for all three malls or a long gone store chain with a signature entrance may have been at each of them. Those tall white columns with the bright tile mosaic behind them can be found at all three malls as entrances for anchor stores.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://www.labelscar.com/texas/southwest-center-mall#comment-101587</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 08:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Red Bird name became quite tarnished as gangs roamed the area.&quot;

And it didn&#039;t help that, as the area&#039;s demographics changed, people started referring to it as &quot;Black Bird Mall.&quot;  That&#039;s probably the main reason for the change to the (admittedly rather sterile) Southwest Center.

&quot;The “protests” outside the mall are insanity. Can you imagine whites doing that to a “black mall”?&quot;

Good ol&#039; John Wiley Price; he&#039;s really a brilliant and effective county commissioner (who gets reelected again and again), but he&#039;s rather extremist in the area of race; the protests can grow tiresome after a while.  (One of those protests made a bunch of us wait through about five traffic light cycles to cross the street on the way into the Cotton Bowl game.  Considering the cost of the tickets, the protest accomplished little aside from ticking off everyone in the crowd, even those who might have otherwise been sympathetic to his cause.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Red Bird name became quite tarnished as gangs roamed the area.&#8221;</p>
<p>And it didn&#8217;t help that, as the area&#8217;s demographics changed, people started referring to it as &#8220;Black Bird Mall.&#8221;  That&#8217;s probably the main reason for the change to the (admittedly rather sterile) Southwest Center.</p>
<p>&#8220;The “protests” outside the mall are insanity. Can you imagine whites doing that to a “black mall”?&#8221;</p>
<p>Good ol&#8217; John Wiley Price; he&#8217;s really a brilliant and effective county commissioner (who gets reelected again and again), but he&#8217;s rather extremist in the area of race; the protests can grow tiresome after a while.  (One of those protests made a bunch of us wait through about five traffic light cycles to cross the street on the way into the Cotton Bowl game.  Considering the cost of the tickets, the protest accomplished little aside from ticking off everyone in the crowd, even those who might have otherwise been sympathetic to his cause.)</p>
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