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		<title>By: Jonah Norason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonah Norason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, what I wonder about the lifespan of lifestyle centers. Already we&#039;re seeing a homogenized tenant mix. Although none are &quot;on the chopping block&quot;, will we see the trend slow in </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, what I wonder about the lifespan of lifestyle centers. Already we&#8217;re seeing a homogenized tenant mix. Although none are &#8220;on the chopping block&#8221;, will we see the trend slow in</p>
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		<title>By: Matt from WI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt from WI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to John (about Southridge):
Yeah, I noticed this, especially since the turn of the new decade.  Back when I visited Southridge in 1994, then again two years later (1996) (at which time, the mall was owned by Blackstone Realty, managed and leased by Urban Retail Group of IL), it was literally a thriving mall with a good variety of shops.  They still claim to be &quot;Wisconsin&#039;s Largest Shopping Center&quot;, but it&#039;s far from that claim.

However, the problem back then was an, overall, outdated appearance (woodframe storefronts, old store logos/signs, et al).  LOTS of them, especially in my 1994 visit.  It just looked a little tired (though nowadays I&#039;d probably relish in taking in such a setting).

Much of that outdatedness was dealt with by 1996, since a lot of the chains that had outdated looks all went belly up by then.

Nowadays, their problem is tenant mix.  Recently they&#039;ve really gone downscale....I mean, Steve &amp; Barry&#039;s?  Old Navy?  Then most of the vacant storefronts are filled by specialty shops that sell a lot of junk.  Although the mall did get some remodeling done in 1990 (to blend it into the &#039;then&#039; new food court), then again in 2000 to eliminate fountains and give the place a fresh coat of paint....it&#039;s due for a full-scale top-to-bottom renovation to bring back softer variants of neutral color schemes it may have had in the 1970s, and reinstate seating areas it lost to kiosks throughout the 1990s.

I think in terms of &#039;overall&#039; square footage, Mayfair takes the claim, followed by Fox River Mall in the Appleton area in second.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to John (about Southridge):<br />
Yeah, I noticed this, especially since the turn of the new decade.  Back when I visited Southridge in 1994, then again two years later (1996) (at which time, the mall was owned by Blackstone Realty, managed and leased by Urban Retail Group of IL), it was literally a thriving mall with a good variety of shops.  They still claim to be &#8220;Wisconsin&#8217;s Largest Shopping Center&#8221;, but it&#8217;s far from that claim.</p>
<p>However, the problem back then was an, overall, outdated appearance (woodframe storefronts, old store logos/signs, et al).  LOTS of them, especially in my 1994 visit.  It just looked a little tired (though nowadays I&#8217;d probably relish in taking in such a setting).</p>
<p>Much of that outdatedness was dealt with by 1996, since a lot of the chains that had outdated looks all went belly up by then.</p>
<p>Nowadays, their problem is tenant mix.  Recently they&#8217;ve really gone downscale&#8230;.I mean, Steve &amp; Barry&#8217;s?  Old Navy?  Then most of the vacant storefronts are filled by specialty shops that sell a lot of junk.  Although the mall did get some remodeling done in 1990 (to blend it into the &#8216;then&#8217; new food court), then again in 2000 to eliminate fountains and give the place a fresh coat of paint&#8230;.it&#8217;s due for a full-scale top-to-bottom renovation to bring back softer variants of neutral color schemes it may have had in the 1970s, and reinstate seating areas it lost to kiosks throughout the 1990s.</p>
<p>I think in terms of &#8216;overall&#8217; square footage, Mayfair takes the claim, followed by Fox River Mall in the Appleton area in second.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to say, but New Lenox is building 2 lifestyle centers at the same interchange, I-355 and US 6. One of the centers is being built by Forest City. These things will kill off Lincoln Mall in Matteson and really hurt Orland Square and Louis Joliet malls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to say, but New Lenox is building 2 lifestyle centers at the same interchange, I-355 and US 6. One of the centers is being built by Forest City. These things will kill off Lincoln Mall in Matteson and really hurt Orland Square and Louis Joliet malls.</p>
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		<title>By: john gallo</title>
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		<dc:creator>john gallo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>southridge has had problems in the last few years. it had been sold to mills corp and is now a simon mall im sure that now that it is in there hands it will have something done soon thay also had a large problem filling a empty ancor spot that was now devided up but the mall is as bussey as ever. you also have to remember the southside of milwaukee tends to be cheep thay wood rather have a wal-mart then a von maur around them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>southridge has had problems in the last few years. it had been sold to mills corp and is now a simon mall im sure that now that it is in there hands it will have something done soon thay also had a large problem filling a empty ancor spot that was now devided up but the mall is as bussey as ever. you also have to remember the southside of milwaukee tends to be cheep thay wood rather have a wal-mart then a von maur around them</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
		<link>http://www.labelscar.com/retail-news/news-and-miscellany#comment-44693</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow, I&#039;d bet Von Maur would be more itching to have a Milwaukee area store than Nordstrom, due to the fact that they have a significant concentration of stores throughout the Midwest, and also because Wisconsin is one of the only states(besides the Dakotas) in the Upper Midwest subregion of the Midwest that they haven&#039;t built a store in yet.

And as for Milwaukee-area malls(despite that I&#039;m nowhere near being a great expert on Milwaukee), it&#039;s interesting to see that Southridge still doesn&#039;t have a future renovation plan on their drawing board, yet that Brookfield is about to get one, Bayshore already got one, and I imagine Mayfair already underwent one years ago, especially if it&#039;s the most successful mall in the Milwakee area. Hopefully Southridge will get one soon enough, especially since it&#039;s the last of the 2 &#039;-ridge&#039; malls to still exist in the Milwaukee area, and since both were built by Taubman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow, I&#8217;d bet Von Maur would be more itching to have a Milwaukee area store than Nordstrom, due to the fact that they have a significant concentration of stores throughout the Midwest, and also because Wisconsin is one of the only states(besides the Dakotas) in the Upper Midwest subregion of the Midwest that they haven&#8217;t built a store in yet.</p>
<p>And as for Milwaukee-area malls(despite that I&#8217;m nowhere near being a great expert on Milwaukee), it&#8217;s interesting to see that Southridge still doesn&#8217;t have a future renovation plan on their drawing board, yet that Brookfield is about to get one, Bayshore already got one, and I imagine Mayfair already underwent one years ago, especially if it&#8217;s the most successful mall in the Milwakee area. Hopefully Southridge will get one soon enough, especially since it&#8217;s the last of the 2 &#8216;-ridge&#8217; malls to still exist in the Milwaukee area, and since both were built by Taubman.</p>
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		<title>By: afsaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>afsaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoppers (particularly rich white female shoppers) are more afraid of gangs (particularly gangs of roaming minority youth, usually black) then they are of mentally crazed wackos shooting them. People still go to Ward Parkway Center in Kansas City after the shooting last spring (by a mentally crazed middle aged white guy). Bannister Mall never had any shootings but the rumors scared the shoppers away. Many blamed the Troost bus line bringing kids from the inner city to Bannister Mall and Hypermart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoppers (particularly rich white female shoppers) are more afraid of gangs (particularly gangs of roaming minority youth, usually black) then they are of mentally crazed wackos shooting them. People still go to Ward Parkway Center in Kansas City after the shooting last spring (by a mentally crazed middle aged white guy). Bannister Mall never had any shootings but the rumors scared the shoppers away. Many blamed the Troost bus line bringing kids from the inner city to Bannister Mall and Hypermart.</p>
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		<title>By: john gallo</title>
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		<dc:creator>john gallo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>von maur is the best bet at getting a upscale store in the milwaukee market. thay have three stores in the chicago aria with the closest being in glenviews glen yes a dreded lifestyle center but the von maur makes it tolarable. the store is alwas cleen neet and has a well traind and frendly staff. plus there perks  are like none other in the indistry. thay do free shipping anyware in the us , free giftraping an any purchace, and no intrest on there charge card. it is the way nordstrum used to do busness before thay got so big and gave up everything that made them specheal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>von maur is the best bet at getting a upscale store in the milwaukee market. thay have three stores in the chicago aria with the closest being in glenviews glen yes a dreded lifestyle center but the von maur makes it tolarable. the store is alwas cleen neet and has a well traind and frendly staff. plus there perks  are like none other in the indistry. thay do free shipping anyware in the us , free giftraping an any purchace, and no intrest on there charge card. it is the way nordstrum used to do busness before thay got so big and gave up everything that made them specheal.</p>
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		<title>By: ghome</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon I have to disargee with you about Macy&#039;s. I really fell that if MACY&#039;s stick to their guns and let the debacle run ot. Macys can survive in the Detroit,Milwaukee,Twin Cites. Macy&#039;s will hurt in the short term but with some changes Macys can survive in the long term. Change takes time and Milwaukee can easily support another Macy&#039;s,a Von Maur, Nordstrom and a Lord and Taylor.

But Nordstrom does not even care about the Milwaukee market. Lord and Taylor still have to work on the effects that the  May Department Stores . But anything could happen in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon I have to disargee with you about Macy&#8217;s. I really fell that if MACY&#8217;s stick to their guns and let the debacle run ot. Macys can survive in the Detroit,Milwaukee,Twin Cites. Macy&#8217;s will hurt in the short term but with some changes Macys can survive in the long term. Change takes time and Milwaukee can easily support another Macy&#8217;s,a Von Maur, Nordstrom and a Lord and Taylor.</p>
<p>But Nordstrom does not even care about the Milwaukee market. Lord and Taylor still have to work on the effects that the  May Department Stores . But anything could happen in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt from WI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt from WI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention Nordstom, or Von Maur would be a good &#039;high end&#039; replacement to the loss of Marshall Field.

Also, Bon Ton would not open stores here under their own banner.  They would go under the Boston Store name in the region.

Considering all their &#039;original&#039; suburban locations (not locations taken over from former Gimbles stores in Milwaukee or Pranges in Madison) are all rather dated on the exteriors, a fresh new box would be something to see.

I do think people in the Fox Valley (Appleton) region have been a bit more receptive to the Macys locatoin at Fox River Mall, but everyone I talk to around this part of the state where I live, still fondly recall Pranges and misses them.  For our region and the rest of the state pretty much, they were our department store....something we could call our own.  Just like Chicago with its Marshall Field Co.

VERY hard to shake that out of people and get them to change.  Customer loyalty is a very strong thing, and if a chain loses that, they&#039;re toast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention Nordstom, or Von Maur would be a good &#8216;high end&#8217; replacement to the loss of Marshall Field.</p>
<p>Also, Bon Ton would not open stores here under their own banner.  They would go under the Boston Store name in the region.</p>
<p>Considering all their &#8216;original&#8217; suburban locations (not locations taken over from former Gimbles stores in Milwaukee or Pranges in Madison) are all rather dated on the exteriors, a fresh new box would be something to see.</p>
<p>I do think people in the Fox Valley (Appleton) region have been a bit more receptive to the Macys locatoin at Fox River Mall, but everyone I talk to around this part of the state where I live, still fondly recall Pranges and misses them.  For our region and the rest of the state pretty much, they were our department store&#8230;.something we could call our own.  Just like Chicago with its Marshall Field Co.</p>
<p>VERY hard to shake that out of people and get them to change.  Customer loyalty is a very strong thing, and if a chain loses that, they&#8217;re toast.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ghome,

Milwaukee cannot support another Macy&#039;s.  The existing one is despised by the locals as it took away their only high-end store, that being Marshall Field&#039;s.  Heck, even Chicago can&#039;t support another Macy&#039;s due to that debacle.  I give Macy&#039;s five years before they close up or sell out the Chicago, Milwaukee, Detroit, and Twin Cities markets to someone else.  That&#039;s five years from 9/9/2006.

Now, a Von Maur or a Nordstrom, or dare I say, a Lord &amp; Taylor, that market could easily support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ghome,</p>
<p>Milwaukee cannot support another Macy&#8217;s.  The existing one is despised by the locals as it took away their only high-end store, that being Marshall Field&#8217;s.  Heck, even Chicago can&#8217;t support another Macy&#8217;s due to that debacle.  I give Macy&#8217;s five years before they close up or sell out the Chicago, Milwaukee, Detroit, and Twin Cities markets to someone else.  That&#8217;s five years from 9/9/2006.</p>
<p>Now, a Von Maur or a Nordstrom, or dare I say, a Lord &amp; Taylor, that market could easily support.</p>
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