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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.labelscar.com/new-york/shoppingtown-mall#comment-151261</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a postscript to my post:

Yes, the store that was for many years Media Play was, indeed, Woolworth&#039;s in the original open air Shoppingtown.  In fact, the configuration of the store never changed.  The large staircase was a part of Woolworth&#039;s and took one down to the toy department and children&#039;s clothing.

Dey Brothers, in what is now the Sears building, had a great restaurant on the first level toward Erie Boulevard.  Known as the Old Erie Coffee Shop, it offered good food at modest prices within a Syracuse history themed setting.

There are just a few reminders of how the original mall was configured.  For example, the free standing bank near the Erie Blvd entrance just up from I HOP was actually attached to the original mall and was Onondaga Savings Bank.  The Scotch and Sirloin restaurant has been a fixture near that bank for fifty years.  The Kallet Theatre (It was a double theatre), now gone, stood across the entrance way from the Scotch and Sirloin, and were the first  large  movie theatres in the eastern townships of Syracuse.  The next was Cinema East which stood next to McDonalds on Erie Blvd, just a few blocks from the mall.  That, too, is gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a postscript to my post:</p>
<p>Yes, the store that was for many years Media Play was, indeed, Woolworth&#8217;s in the original open air Shoppingtown.  In fact, the configuration of the store never changed.  The large staircase was a part of Woolworth&#8217;s and took one down to the toy department and children&#8217;s clothing.</p>
<p>Dey Brothers, in what is now the Sears building, had a great restaurant on the first level toward Erie Boulevard.  Known as the Old Erie Coffee Shop, it offered good food at modest prices within a Syracuse history themed setting.</p>
<p>There are just a few reminders of how the original mall was configured.  For example, the free standing bank near the Erie Blvd entrance just up from I HOP was actually attached to the original mall and was Onondaga Savings Bank.  The Scotch and Sirloin restaurant has been a fixture near that bank for fifty years.  The Kallet Theatre (It was a double theatre), now gone, stood across the entrance way from the Scotch and Sirloin, and were the first  large  movie theatres in the eastern townships of Syracuse.  The next was Cinema East which stood next to McDonalds on Erie Blvd, just a few blocks from the mall.  That, too, is gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.labelscar.com/new-york/shoppingtown-mall#comment-151259</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the fire at WNYS.  It was in late 1966 or early 1967.  Shoppingtown was, at that time, an outdoor strip mall.  WNYS was located along the corridor which now leads toward the Sears store.  The fire had one very sad consequence.  While WNYS was back on the air in just hours (broadcasting from WCNY in Liverpool for several weeks), all of the sets for the popular local Baron Damone show were lost and that part of Syracuse entertainment history passed into legend.

There are some incorrect statements about the origin of Shoppingtown.  The mall opened as a large strip mall in the eastern suburbs in the mid-1950&#039;s.  Dey Brothers, in the early 1960&#039;s opened what they called their Store For Homes which initially sold only home furnishings etc.  This was Dey&#039;s first foray outside of the downtown area.  By the mid-1970&#039;s there was incredible growth in the DeWitt, Fayetteville and Manlius areas and the mall was reconfigured to an indoor mall.  This explains why the corridor toward the Sears store (which had been that original Dey Brother&#039;s store) is not level and follows the contour of what had been the walkway of the outdoor mall.  Dey&#039;s was now a full department store and E W Edwards opened their huge store in the center of the new mall.  Today, that store is a J C Penny store and only in the last few years has the E W Edwards chandelier which stood over the escalators been removed.  Chappells also opened a large store in the new mall.  By 1980, this mall was home to suburban branches of Syracuse&#039;s finest old stores.  In addition to Dey&#039;s and Edwards, the mall hosted The Addis Company, Economy Books, Wells and Coverly and Flahs.  The mall was renovated again in the early 1990&#039;s and there is another plan to open the corridor toward Sears and return it, once again, to an outdoor plaza.  This mall speaks volumes about the rise and decline of local Syracuse retailing.  For those of us who grew up in that great old city, it is sad to see all of the generic stores which one can find anywhere in America, standing in the place of wonderful Syracuse stores which, one by one, were bought out by the inane &quot;bon tons&quot; of this world.  These local stores followed population shifts and trends and slowly their downtown flagships closed and then their suburban satellites were absorbed by generic stores and the great old names disappeared forever.  This pattern was repeated in every city across America.  How sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the fire at WNYS.  It was in late 1966 or early 1967.  Shoppingtown was, at that time, an outdoor strip mall.  WNYS was located along the corridor which now leads toward the Sears store.  The fire had one very sad consequence.  While WNYS was back on the air in just hours (broadcasting from WCNY in Liverpool for several weeks), all of the sets for the popular local Baron Damone show were lost and that part of Syracuse entertainment history passed into legend.</p>
<p>There are some incorrect statements about the origin of Shoppingtown.  The mall opened as a large strip mall in the eastern suburbs in the mid-1950&#8217;s.  Dey Brothers, in the early 1960&#8217;s opened what they called their Store For Homes which initially sold only home furnishings etc.  This was Dey&#8217;s first foray outside of the downtown area.  By the mid-1970&#8217;s there was incredible growth in the DeWitt, Fayetteville and Manlius areas and the mall was reconfigured to an indoor mall.  This explains why the corridor toward the Sears store (which had been that original Dey Brother&#8217;s store) is not level and follows the contour of what had been the walkway of the outdoor mall.  Dey&#8217;s was now a full department store and E W Edwards opened their huge store in the center of the new mall.  Today, that store is a J C Penny store and only in the last few years has the E W Edwards chandelier which stood over the escalators been removed.  Chappells also opened a large store in the new mall.  By 1980, this mall was home to suburban branches of Syracuse&#8217;s finest old stores.  In addition to Dey&#8217;s and Edwards, the mall hosted The Addis Company, Economy Books, Wells and Coverly and Flahs.  The mall was renovated again in the early 1990&#8217;s and there is another plan to open the corridor toward Sears and return it, once again, to an outdoor plaza.  This mall speaks volumes about the rise and decline of local Syracuse retailing.  For those of us who grew up in that great old city, it is sad to see all of the generic stores which one can find anywhere in America, standing in the place of wonderful Syracuse stores which, one by one, were bought out by the inane &#8220;bon tons&#8221; of this world.  These local stores followed population shifts and trends and slowly their downtown flagships closed and then their suburban satellites were absorbed by generic stores and the great old names disappeared forever.  This pattern was repeated in every city across America.  How sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 04:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked as an engineer at WNYS-TV 9 (later WIXT before changing to the present WSYR-TV callsign) in the mid-&#039;70s when the studios were in the basement of the Sears wing.  The station went on the air in 1962 and its main entrance was adjacent to the original Kallet Theatre, which was abandoned in 1968.  I believe it was near the area later occupied by Media Play.  A long stairway went down to the station from the interior of the mall; this was originally intended as public access to the theatre and the corridor had a window looking into the TV projection room.

The fire occurred several years before I went to work there, but the facility was completely rebuilt and all damaged equipment replaced. 

More info on the Kallet Theatre here - you can see the old Channel 9 entrance in some of the photos:

http://cinemasightlines.com/cinemas_cinemaviews1.php

http://cinematreasures.org/theater/21996/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked as an engineer at WNYS-TV 9 (later WIXT before changing to the present WSYR-TV callsign) in the mid-&#8217;70s when the studios were in the basement of the Sears wing.  The station went on the air in 1962 and its main entrance was adjacent to the original Kallet Theatre, which was abandoned in 1968.  I believe it was near the area later occupied by Media Play.  A long stairway went down to the station from the interior of the mall; this was originally intended as public access to the theatre and the corridor had a window looking into the TV projection room.</p>
<p>The fire occurred several years before I went to work there, but the facility was completely rebuilt and all damaged equipment replaced. </p>
<p>More info on the Kallet Theatre here &#8211; you can see the old Channel 9 entrance in some of the photos:</p>
<p><a href="http://cinemasightlines.com/cinemas_cinemaviews1.php" rel="nofollow">http://cinemasightlines.com/cinemas_cinemaviews1.php</a></p>
<p><a href="http://cinematreasures.org/theater/21996/" rel="nofollow">http://cinematreasures.org/theater/21996/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dad grew up in the area and he said that when channel 9 first opened (WSYR now, but back then it was WNYS) they were located in the basement of the Shoppingtown Mall. My grandfather was an engineer for them. I guess there was some kind of massive fire that destroyed their studios there. I can&#039;t find any info on it, though, aside from the wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WSYR-TV

Does anyone remember this? What caused the fire? How bad was it? Where were they located in the mall? In the Sears wing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dad grew up in the area and he said that when channel 9 first opened (WSYR now, but back then it was WNYS) they were located in the basement of the Shoppingtown Mall. My grandfather was an engineer for them. I guess there was some kind of massive fire that destroyed their studios there. I can&#8217;t find any info on it, though, aside from the wiki.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WSYR-TV" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WSYR-TV</a></p>
<p>Does anyone remember this? What caused the fire? How bad was it? Where were they located in the mall? In the Sears wing?</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://www.labelscar.com/new-york/shoppingtown-mall#comment-116732</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 04:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a typo in your introduction.  You state that &quot;EG Edwards&quot; was an original anchor of Shoppingtown.  The store&#039;s name was actually EW Edwards and Sons.  

Edwards&#039; was a early 20th century chain, with three huge downtown stores in Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse. I believe that the Edwards family was from Syracuse.   

The Edwards stores prospered through the mid-20th century, when they were sold to Almy-Gorin Stores of Boston in the 1970s, owners of several New England legendary stores, including RH White, and The Star Store. The downtown stores closed in all three cities (although I believe that they may have pulled out of the Buffalo area earlier than the 1970s).

I do not know about any of the Edwards branch stores in Buffalo or Syracuse, but there were two in Rochester, at the Pittsford and Ridgemont Plazas. They continued to operate under the Edwards name until the early 1980s, when they suddenly took the Almy&#039;s nameplate.  The Pittsford store was completely renovated, but the Ridgemont store was not, a charming but dated reminder of what branch stores looked like in the early 1960s. By 1985, both Almy stores closed. 

There doesn&#039;t seem to be a lot of information out there about Edwards in the research that I&#039;ve done. But they were an important store in Central and Western New York, especially in Rochester and Syracuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a typo in your introduction.  You state that &#8220;EG Edwards&#8221; was an original anchor of Shoppingtown.  The store&#8217;s name was actually EW Edwards and Sons.  </p>
<p>Edwards&#8217; was a early 20th century chain, with three huge downtown stores in Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse. I believe that the Edwards family was from Syracuse.   </p>
<p>The Edwards stores prospered through the mid-20th century, when they were sold to Almy-Gorin Stores of Boston in the 1970s, owners of several New England legendary stores, including RH White, and The Star Store. The downtown stores closed in all three cities (although I believe that they may have pulled out of the Buffalo area earlier than the 1970s).</p>
<p>I do not know about any of the Edwards branch stores in Buffalo or Syracuse, but there were two in Rochester, at the Pittsford and Ridgemont Plazas. They continued to operate under the Edwards name until the early 1980s, when they suddenly took the Almy&#8217;s nameplate.  The Pittsford store was completely renovated, but the Ridgemont store was not, a charming but dated reminder of what branch stores looked like in the early 1960s. By 1985, both Almy stores closed. </p>
<p>There doesn&#8217;t seem to be a lot of information out there about Edwards in the research that I&#8217;ve done. But they were an important store in Central and Western New York, especially in Rochester and Syracuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Booby, I believe the Media Play space was the Woolworth&#039;s. Not 100% positive though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Booby, I believe the Media Play space was the Woolworth&#8217;s. Not 100% positive though.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoppingtown does  NOT I repeat NOT  need to be a strip mall !!!  Way to much snow for a strip mall!! People want to be INSIDE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoppingtown does  NOT I repeat NOT  need to be a strip mall !!!  Way to much snow for a strip mall!! People want to be INSIDE.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was out there today, and I just have to say that seeing the mall in its current state is really rather depressing. To walk down to the Sears wing just reminds me of how wonderful the mall was when it was at its prime, with Media Play and such stores still going strong. 

Does anyone know what they are doing? I read some of their renovation plans on their website, but the articles seem to be nearly 2 or 3 years old. Same with the pictures here. What are they waiting for? Eerie Boulevard is such a prosperous retail area, and you would think the owners of such a mall would make greater strides to move in businesses and get the shoppers coming back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was out there today, and I just have to say that seeing the mall in its current state is really rather depressing. To walk down to the Sears wing just reminds me of how wonderful the mall was when it was at its prime, with Media Play and such stores still going strong. </p>
<p>Does anyone know what they are doing? I read some of their renovation plans on their website, but the articles seem to be nearly 2 or 3 years old. Same with the pictures here. What are they waiting for? Eerie Boulevard is such a prosperous retail area, and you would think the owners of such a mall would make greater strides to move in businesses and get the shoppers coming back.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any idea what was originally in the Old Navy and Media Play spaces? I&#039;m assuming one was the Woolworth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any idea what was originally in the Old Navy and Media Play spaces? I&#8217;m assuming one was the Woolworth.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
		<link>http://www.labelscar.com/new-york/shoppingtown-mall#comment-85150</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 04:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at the mall today...just hanging out with my friends.  I feel it would benefit you all to know that the Sears wing is now COMPLETELY Dead...

It&#039;s still a cool place to hang out due to the massage chairs available, the privacy, the cool architectural design and the carpeted floor.

There&#039;s a golf training center in an old store and Branch&#039;s Driving School in the basement of that portion and that is IT for the Sears wing.  There must be nearly 20-25 perfectly suitable store spaces which are now vacant.  And what is sad is that nearly half of the stores which once inhabited these spaces have only moved to other more &#039;lively&#039; areas of the mall.

Sears thrives of course and believe it or not people still make the long trek from the end of the hallway to Sears even though there are NO stores along the way.

I hope they revitalize the Sears wing and do not close it off/ tear it down, making Sears an Open Store...all the mall needs is a Solid Anchor Store in the old Media Play space and the area would revitalize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the mall today&#8230;just hanging out with my friends.  I feel it would benefit you all to know that the Sears wing is now COMPLETELY Dead&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s still a cool place to hang out due to the massage chairs available, the privacy, the cool architectural design and the carpeted floor.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a golf training center in an old store and Branch&#8217;s Driving School in the basement of that portion and that is IT for the Sears wing.  There must be nearly 20-25 perfectly suitable store spaces which are now vacant.  And what is sad is that nearly half of the stores which once inhabited these spaces have only moved to other more &#8216;lively&#8217; areas of the mall.</p>
<p>Sears thrives of course and believe it or not people still make the long trek from the end of the hallway to Sears even though there are NO stores along the way.</p>
<p>I hope they revitalize the Sears wing and do not close it off/ tear it down, making Sears an Open Store&#8230;all the mall needs is a Solid Anchor Store in the old Media Play space and the area would revitalize.</p>
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