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		<title>By: eerockie63</title>
		<link>http://www.labelscar.com/new-york/oakdale-mall#comment-126415</link>
		<dc:creator>eerockie63</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Edith,  I worked there in the late 70&#039;s early 80&#039;s,as one of the bakers. Owners last name was mastranardi. I remember before i ever worked there the smell would just drawn people in. Everything was baked on premisis starting at 4:00am. Haven&#039;t heard  anything about the owener in years,he was old back then...used as a job referance for years, Good luck finding that recpie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Edith,  I worked there in the late 70&#8217;s early 80&#8217;s,as one of the bakers. Owners last name was mastranardi. I remember before i ever worked there the smell would just drawn people in. Everything was baked on premisis starting at 4:00am. Haven&#8217;t heard  anything about the owener in years,he was old back then&#8230;used as a job referance for years, Good luck finding that recpie!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bon ton at the oakdale mall has the most rude employees.  A dark haired lady named pam  wouldn&#039;t  help me with my purchase.  Card just got cut and My family and friends will follow.  NO MORE BON TON!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bon ton at the oakdale mall has the most rude employees.  A dark haired lady named pam  wouldn&#8217;t  help me with my purchase.  Card just got cut and My family and friends will follow.  NO MORE BON TON!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.labelscar.com/new-york/oakdale-mall#comment-117250</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 01:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Christine,  actually Howlands was located between Bradlees (now Burlington) and the alleyway where the arcade and theaters were.  I think that its Abercrombie today.

The JC Penney was a new construction. Before that it was just a group of mall doors out to the parking lot.  I remember having one of those &quot;roller coaster&quot; machines in front of that entrance when I was a kid, you know the kind that was like a spaceship (shaped like a toaster) that closed you inside and showed views of flying and stuff on a screen while the whole thing rocked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Christine,  actually Howlands was located between Bradlees (now Burlington) and the alleyway where the arcade and theaters were.  I think that its Abercrombie today.</p>
<p>The JC Penney was a new construction. Before that it was just a group of mall doors out to the parking lot.  I remember having one of those &#8220;roller coaster&#8221; machines in front of that entrance when I was a kid, you know the kind that was like a spaceship (shaped like a toaster) that closed you inside and showed views of flying and stuff on a screen while the whole thing rocked.</p>
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		<title>By: Edith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone remember Tiffany&quot;s bakery?  There was a pastry there that my dad misses.  I have been trying to find the owners since i have not been able to find a similar recipe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone remember Tiffany&#8221;s bakery?  There was a pastry there that my dad misses.  I have been trying to find the owners since i have not been able to find a similar recipe.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is called Binghamton&#039;s mall becuz we are Greater Binghamton. Whenever a city is called &quot;greater&quot;, that means it is the dominating area, such as Greater Peoria, where I once lived, also. Binghamton is a great city and has a marvelous history. It put out society&#039;s greats, such as Rod Serling of Twilight Zone, and myself, a Christian Rocker who has made my own mark around the world. So shop at Greater Binghamton&#039;s mall and enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is called Binghamton&#8217;s mall becuz we are Greater Binghamton. Whenever a city is called &#8220;greater&#8221;, that means it is the dominating area, such as Greater Peoria, where I once lived, also. Binghamton is a great city and has a marvelous history. It put out society&#8217;s greats, such as Rod Serling of Twilight Zone, and myself, a Christian Rocker who has made my own mark around the world. So shop at Greater Binghamton&#8217;s mall and enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: todaresq</title>
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		<dc:creator>todaresq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love your blog!!! Love malls!!!

Some corrections and additions... 

Chris Whittaker said,
There was a tiny 4 screen theater in this mall as well, but it went the way of the dodo/passenger pigeon once the 12 screen stadium theater complex was built of of Interstate 81.

My response:
It was actually a 3 screen theater. I worked for Loew&#039;s Theaters at the time. The facade of the theater used the same dark brown tile that were originally used for the malls floor. That dreary look stayed after the malls remodel. The triple-plex was closed by Loew&#039;s shortly after the construction of the Hoyt&#039;s Theater on Upper Front St *Off of I-81, now a Regal*. The theater was reopened by a local person as a discount operation, but did not last. After a local indie film cinema burned down, they temporarily used the mall location... but also did not work out. I am guessing because of rent. The rent at the Oakdale Mall is amazingly high for upstate NY. Once Burlington Coat Factory took over the Bradlee&#039;s location, no theater operation would be allowed do to the contract BCF has with Vornado... BCF&#039;s position was that it would take up parking that their shoppers could use.

Chris Whittaker also said,
What I’m wondering is if the impending food court to be built in the location of the former movie theater (if you look at the mall’s site plan) will help or hurt this mall, since this is an out of the way location, plus it will open up several more holes in the main part of the mall.

My response:
If the food court opens... it would add eateries... and only move a couple. Currently the mall has:
Friendly&#039;s which would stay where it is
Ruby Tuesday which would also stay where it is
Cinnabon which would probably not move
A local coffee shop which is close enough and would need it&#039;s own space.
An Auntie Anne&#039;s which is basically right there.
The pizza shop is right across the hall and would probably move... an arcade may reopen in that spot, since one would be needed.
Subway would move to the food court.
Arby&#039;s would move would move to the food court.

Basically the food court would only make two locations move... McDonald&#039;s, Burger King and an asian restaurant would probably return... and other new franchises would open.

XISMZERO said,
Just visited this mall today on my way back from Elmira. I didn’t know it was Oakdale Mall until I drove off the highway and noticed that unusual looking Bon Ton you just wrote about. Looked spiffy; but not really my cup of tea after visiting Arnot Mall, a much more interesting and unique lesser known mall of Southern N.Y. I did, however, dig that vintage Burlington Coat Factory entrance and suspected it once belonged to Bradlees.

My response:
I would agree that the Arnot Mall is interesting... but I don&#039;t think is better... with the exception of the Food Court. I like eating at the Friendly&#039;s overlooking the off kilter center court. 

At Arnot, 106 spots are filled of their 135 store fronts/kiosks. Oakdale on the other hand has 100 of it&#039;s current 112 store fronts/kiosks full. What I found interesting is that while many of the stores at Oakdale currently have taken over multiple smaller spots like Abercrombie &amp; Fitch and Hollister Taking over Limited, Limited Too and Caciques old spots... FYE took over 4 small store fronts... and GAP took over 3 themselves... and most recently, Against All Odds took over 2 spots. Arnot seems to be dividing locations up into smaller ones... like 11A, 11B, 11C.

Matt said,
I would swear from the pendant light in the sears court and the design of the columns in the center court that this was owned by Simon and renovated in the last several years….that fixture is identical to those at palm beach mall, Melbourne square and a few other Simon malls Ive seen on this site…further proof of the blandification of malls in this country.

My response:
While it is a blandification... it is by a lesser known company. Vornado out of New York City. They only have 16 enclosed malls... they also have 150 shopping centers and just over 50 shopping sites in Manhattan. The only complaint I have about Oakdale is the mall management. The managers *a husband &amp; wife team* have been there forever and still run it the way it has always been. It doesn&#039;t even have a customer service desk out on the floor. It is hidden away down a tiny hall way in the mall office. They would sell so many more gift cards and have better community relations if they put someone in a Customer Service Kiosk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love your blog!!! Love malls!!!</p>
<p>Some corrections and additions&#8230; </p>
<p>Chris Whittaker said,<br />
There was a tiny 4 screen theater in this mall as well, but it went the way of the dodo/passenger pigeon once the 12 screen stadium theater complex was built of of Interstate 81.</p>
<p>My response:<br />
It was actually a 3 screen theater. I worked for Loew&#8217;s Theaters at the time. The facade of the theater used the same dark brown tile that were originally used for the malls floor. That dreary look stayed after the malls remodel. The triple-plex was closed by Loew&#8217;s shortly after the construction of the Hoyt&#8217;s Theater on Upper Front St *Off of I-81, now a Regal*. The theater was reopened by a local person as a discount operation, but did not last. After a local indie film cinema burned down, they temporarily used the mall location&#8230; but also did not work out. I am guessing because of rent. The rent at the Oakdale Mall is amazingly high for upstate NY. Once Burlington Coat Factory took over the Bradlee&#8217;s location, no theater operation would be allowed do to the contract BCF has with Vornado&#8230; BCF&#8217;s position was that it would take up parking that their shoppers could use.</p>
<p>Chris Whittaker also said,<br />
What I’m wondering is if the impending food court to be built in the location of the former movie theater (if you look at the mall’s site plan) will help or hurt this mall, since this is an out of the way location, plus it will open up several more holes in the main part of the mall.</p>
<p>My response:<br />
If the food court opens&#8230; it would add eateries&#8230; and only move a couple. Currently the mall has:<br />
Friendly&#8217;s which would stay where it is<br />
Ruby Tuesday which would also stay where it is<br />
Cinnabon which would probably not move<br />
A local coffee shop which is close enough and would need it&#8217;s own space.<br />
An Auntie Anne&#8217;s which is basically right there.<br />
The pizza shop is right across the hall and would probably move&#8230; an arcade may reopen in that spot, since one would be needed.<br />
Subway would move to the food court.<br />
Arby&#8217;s would move would move to the food court.</p>
<p>Basically the food court would only make two locations move&#8230; McDonald&#8217;s, Burger King and an asian restaurant would probably return&#8230; and other new franchises would open.</p>
<p>XISMZERO said,<br />
Just visited this mall today on my way back from Elmira. I didn’t know it was Oakdale Mall until I drove off the highway and noticed that unusual looking Bon Ton you just wrote about. Looked spiffy; but not really my cup of tea after visiting Arnot Mall, a much more interesting and unique lesser known mall of Southern N.Y. I did, however, dig that vintage Burlington Coat Factory entrance and suspected it once belonged to Bradlees.</p>
<p>My response:<br />
I would agree that the Arnot Mall is interesting&#8230; but I don&#8217;t think is better&#8230; with the exception of the Food Court. I like eating at the Friendly&#8217;s overlooking the off kilter center court. </p>
<p>At Arnot, 106 spots are filled of their 135 store fronts/kiosks. Oakdale on the other hand has 100 of it&#8217;s current 112 store fronts/kiosks full. What I found interesting is that while many of the stores at Oakdale currently have taken over multiple smaller spots like Abercrombie &amp; Fitch and Hollister Taking over Limited, Limited Too and Caciques old spots&#8230; FYE took over 4 small store fronts&#8230; and GAP took over 3 themselves&#8230; and most recently, Against All Odds took over 2 spots. Arnot seems to be dividing locations up into smaller ones&#8230; like 11A, 11B, 11C.</p>
<p>Matt said,<br />
I would swear from the pendant light in the sears court and the design of the columns in the center court that this was owned by Simon and renovated in the last several years….that fixture is identical to those at palm beach mall, Melbourne square and a few other Simon malls Ive seen on this site…further proof of the blandification of malls in this country.</p>
<p>My response:<br />
While it is a blandification&#8230; it is by a lesser known company. Vornado out of New York City. They only have 16 enclosed malls&#8230; they also have 150 shopping centers and just over 50 shopping sites in Manhattan. The only complaint I have about Oakdale is the mall management. The managers *a husband &amp; wife team* have been there forever and still run it the way it has always been. It doesn&#8217;t even have a customer service desk out on the floor. It is hidden away down a tiny hall way in the mall office. They would sell so many more gift cards and have better community relations if they put someone in a Customer Service Kiosk.</p>
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		<title>By: lakawak</title>
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		<dc:creator>lakawak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bonnie, people call it Binghamton&#039;s mall because Johnson City is an afterthought on the map.  Hell, the city won&#039;t even EXIST soon since it has absolutely no money.  Funny you should talk about sinkholes, etc in defending Johnson City.  When is the last time the city spend one penny on their parks?  Or on their streets?  Johnson City is by far the worst city I have ever encountered in NY State, which includes several dozen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonnie, people call it Binghamton&#8217;s mall because Johnson City is an afterthought on the map.  Hell, the city won&#8217;t even EXIST soon since it has absolutely no money.  Funny you should talk about sinkholes, etc in defending Johnson City.  When is the last time the city spend one penny on their parks?  Or on their streets?  Johnson City is by far the worst city I have ever encountered in NY State, which includes several dozen.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howlands was in the spot that JCPenney is in now.</description>
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		<title>By: Bonnie T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wondering why anyone [or everyone] keeps calling it Binghamton&#039;s mall...........it is definately and solely located in JOHNSON CITY NY.  If Binghamton had a mall, it would most likely close in a few years, be very sparsely inhabited and shopped at, because most of that city&#039;s businesses are built over land that soon develops LARGE sinkholes, potholes, heaving, etc making it not worth the effort to find parking, let alone walk on buckling floors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wondering why anyone [or everyone] keeps calling it Binghamton&#8217;s mall&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..it is definately and solely located in JOHNSON CITY NY.  If Binghamton had a mall, it would most likely close in a few years, be very sparsely inhabited and shopped at, because most of that city&#8217;s businesses are built over land that soon develops LARGE sinkholes, potholes, heaving, etc making it not worth the effort to find parking, let alone walk on buckling floors.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would swear from the pendant light in the sears court and the design of the columns in the center court that this was owned by Simon and renovated in the last several years....that fixture is identical to those at palm beach mall, Melbourne square and a few other Simon malls Ive seen on this site...further proof of the blandification of malls in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would swear from the pendant light in the sears court and the design of the columns in the center court that this was owned by Simon and renovated in the last several years&#8230;.that fixture is identical to those at palm beach mall, Melbourne square and a few other Simon malls Ive seen on this site&#8230;further proof of the blandification of malls in this country.</p>
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